[Xmca-l] Re: XMCA home page?

Huw Lloyd huw.softdesigns@gmail.com
Sat Mar 7 14:45:47 PST 2015


Do you mean an XMCA homepage or a CHAT homepage?

XMCA seems fine as a static entity, but a good CHAT 'homepage' should be
something much more dynamic involving community based 'gardening'.

The wiki does support fairly rich structures (consult the system help
files), and a homepage on it could conceivably lead folk into discovering
the modestly exciting power of a wiki to organise ideas and collective
efforts.

Huw


On 7 March 2015 at 00:27, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:

> The whole idea of the blogs, etc., is that it would NOT be hosted at UCSD.
> If it is hosted at UCSD everything has to be done via a technician
> employed by UCSD who is not a participant in XMCA, or, is limited in its
> flexibility. Possibly there *are* software packages which could be
> installed on a UCSD server which could allow fairly free and easy use by
> xmca participants. But it has not happened so far. Perhaps the Wiki could
> be adapted to this purpose (i.e. to create a "home page" for xmca)?
> I'd like to hear Huw's view on this.
> Andy
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *Andy Blunden*
> http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
>
>
> mike cole wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the thoughts, Andy. I am not sure what it means to leave it
>> where it is AND have a blog (hosted at UCSD?). And not sure how fees would
>> be collected or who would agree, etc.
>> How about you organize a committee of willing volunteers, include me as
>> ex officio, and then come back to the list with a proposal?
>>
>> mike
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net <mailto:
>> ablunden@mira.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     Would be goods to see the rest of your message, Renee.
>>     Mike, here's what I think.
>>     Leave xmca where it is. If some future leader of LCHC wants to
>>     delete it, that will have to be handled at the time.
>>     To develop the xmca community, I suggest you take up an offer you
>>     have had for a website on a non-university server and a technical
>>     manager who can just issue server permissions or something. Such a
>>     role which would be inherited by whoever took over the
>>     responsibility for the server in the future. Fees would be modest
>>     in this instance and easily raised through this list.
>>     All xmca participants would be offered a blog on this site.
>>     blogging is something which is verging on being a skill which
>>     everyone should have, and it is very flexible.
>>     If half a dozen xmca participants could operate blogs then we'd
>>     have something.
>>     Nominate an xmca-er - someone like Huw, to manage the coordination
>>     of the pages, for example, an index of blogs, news, link to xmca
>>     archives, etc. - a minimal front page.
>>     That's my view.
>>     Andy
>>     ------------------------------------------------------------
>> ------------
>>     *Andy Blunden*
>>     http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
>>     <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>>
>>
>>     UCB wrote:
>>
>>         I'm
>>         Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>             On Mar 5, 2015, at 8:16 PM, Andy Blunden
>>             <ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>> wrote:
>>
>>             The compensation that our times gives for having melted
>>             everything into air is that Google can always find it,
>>             even if it is scattered to the four winds ... provided
>>             only that you know what you're looking for.
>>             Andy
>>             ------------------------------------------------------------
>> ------------
>>             *Andy Blunden*
>>             http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
>>             <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>>
>>
>>             mike cole wrote:
>>
>>                 Right, Andy.
>>
>>                 LCHC has been a major source of support for MCA
>>                 because it started here. but it is an international
>>                 journal, and whether it remains anchored at UCSD. The
>>                 xmca discussion
>>                 could or could not go on in any form imaginable.
>>                 Whether or not there is sufficient interest and
>>                 willingness of people to collaborate in such an effort
>>                 is an open question. Like the future always is.
>>
>>                 As Alexander Luria wrote an eon ago in the last
>>                 paragraph of his autobiography:
>>
>>                 "People come and go, but the creative sources of great
>>                 historical events and important ideas and deeds
>>                 remain." Its an optimistic view, but seems appropriate
>>                 to the circumstances.
>>                 mike
>>
>>                 On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Andy Blunden
>>                 <ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
>>                 <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>>
>>                 wrote:
>>
>>                    It's basically a judgment about longevity, I think.
>>                    Universities last forever, but sometimes the people
>>                 who come after
>>                    don't see the point of preserving old archives.
>>          (That's really
>>                    true!).
>>                    Volunteer sites, where active participants control
>>                 the webpages
>>                    last as long as the collective. How long will xmca
>>                 live on after us?
>>
>>                    Andy
>>                                   ------------------------------
>> ------------------------------------------
>>                    *Andy Blunden*
>>                    http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
>>                 <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>>                    <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>>
>>
>>                    mike cole wrote:
>>
>>                        Any reason why xmca has to be located at LCHC? mike
>>
>>                        On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Andy Blunden
>>                        <ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
>>                 <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>
>>                        <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
>>                 <mailto:ablunden@mira.net> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
>>                 <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>>> wrote:
>>
>>                            A web page without an interested and active
>>                 webmaster looking
>>                            after and updating will always be a fossil.
>>                            A volunteer to maintain the UCSD webpages
>>                 has to be a part
>>                        of the
>>                            CHAT discussion AND an employee of UCSD
>>                 with permissions
>>                        on the
>>                            server.
>>                            Andy
>>
>>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>                            *Andy Blunden*
>>                            http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
>>                 <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>>                        <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>>                            <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>>
>>
>>                            mike cole wrote:
>>
>>                                Now what to do about that clunky xmca
>>                 web page?
>>                                Any volunteers to provide the proper
>>                 facilities?
>>                                mike
>>
>>                                On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Greg
>>                 Thompson
>>                                <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com
>>                 <mailto:greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
>>                        <mailto:greg.a.thompson@gmail.com
>>                 <mailto:greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>>
>>                        <mailto:greg.a.thompson@gmail.com
>>                 <mailto:greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
>>                        <mailto:greg.a.thompson@gmail.com
>>                 <mailto:greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>>>
>>                                <mailto:greg.a.thompson@gmail.com
>>                 <mailto:greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
>>                        <mailto:greg.a.thompson@gmail.com
>>                 <mailto:greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>>
>>                                <mailto:greg.a.thompson@gmail.com
>>                 <mailto:greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
>>                        <mailto:greg.a.thompson@gmail.com
>>                 <mailto:greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>>>>> wrote:
>>
>>                                    Is there a website somewhere that
>>                 these sorts of
>>                        things can be
>>                                    archived?
>>                                    E.g., I just noticed that XMCA's
>>                 (kinda clunky!)
>>                        home page has
>>                                    links to
>>                                    videos from 2010 and 2008 but
>>                 nothing more recent.
>>                                    http://lchc.ucsd.edu/mca/
>>
>>                                    Seems a shame for this link only to
>>                 appear on
>>                        Andy's page
>>                                and in
>>                                    this email
>>                                    that will soon be buried...
>>
>>                                    Anyone have any ideas?
>>
>>                                    -greg
>>
>>                                    On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 4:47 PM,
>>                 Andy Blunden
>>                                <ablunden@mira.net
>>                 <mailto:ablunden@mira.net> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
>>                 <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>
>>                        <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
>>                 <mailto:ablunden@mira.net> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
>>                 <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>>
>>                                    <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
>>                 <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
>>                        <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
>>                 <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
>>                 <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
>>                        <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
>>                 <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>>>> wrote:
>>
>>                                    > In January and February, I
>>                 delivered 10 lectures
>>                        on *The
>>                                    Concepts of CHAT*
>>                                    > in Melbourne.
>>                                    > I have edited them up into a
>>                 series of videos,
>>                        using the
>>                                PowerPoint
>>                                    > slides, subtitles and audience
>>                 views to enhance the
>>                                talking head.
>>                                    > Shukla Sikder and Feiyan Chen did
>>                 a great job in
>>                        video
>>                                recording
>>                                    the whole
>>                                    > thing and the quality is good.
>>                                    > The concepts covered are: Action,
>>                 behaviour and
>>                                consciousness;
>>                                    Genetic
>>                                    > method; unity and dichotomy;
>>          Analysis by units
>>                        and germ
>>                                cell;  Word
>>                                    > meaning and artefact-mediated
>>                 action, dual
>>                        stimulation;            Perezhivanie and
>>                                    > catharsis, social situation of
>>                 development,
>>                                disability/compensation;
>>                                    > Concepts during childhood;
>>        Spontaneous, true
>>                        and actual
>>                                    concepts; the
>>                                    > emotions; Activity: operations,
>>                 actions and
>>                        activities;
>>                                Object
>>                                    of activity
>>                                    > in Leontyev, Engeström and
>>                 Vygotsky; Project as
>>                        unit of
>>                                social life.
>>                                    > The videos and a link to the
>>                 prescribed reading
>>                        is at
>>                                    > https://vimeo.com/groups/301100/
>>                                    >
>>                                    > There's 10 hours of video there,
>>                 so I don't expect
>>                                reviews from
>>                                    xmca-ers,
>>                                    > but anyone teaching CHAT might
>>                 consider whether
>>                        it meets
>>                                some of
>>                                    your
>>                                    > needs. I try to confine myself to
>>                 what I know
>>                        something
>>                                about
>>                                    and as best I
>>                                    > could, stayed away from issues of
>>                 Psychology and
>>                        Learning
>>                                    Science of which
>>                                    > I am ignorant. Just the Concepts.
>>                                    >
>>                                    > Andy
>>                                    > --
>>                                    >
>>
>>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>                                    > *Andy Blunden*
>>                                    > http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
>>                 <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>>                        <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>>                                <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>>                                    <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>>                                    >
>>                                    >
>>
>>
>>                                    --
>>                                    Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
>>                                    Assistant Professor
>>                                    Department of Anthropology
>>                                    880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
>>                                    Brigham Young University
>>                                    Provo, UT 84602
>>                                    http://byu.academia.edu/
>> GregoryThompson
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                                --         It is the dilemma of
>>                 psychology to deal as
>>                        a natural science
>>                                with an object that creates history.
>>                 Ernst Boesch.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                        --         It is the dilemma of psychology to
>>                 deal as a natural science
>>                        with an object that creates history. Ernst Boesch.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                 --                 It is the dilemma of psychology to
>> deal as a natural
>>                 science with an object that creates history. Ernst Boesch.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with an
>> object that creates history. Ernst Boesch.
>>
>>
>>
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