[Xmca-l] Re: "Language Gap" forum in JLA

Peter Smagorinsky smago@uga.edu
Mon Jun 1 12:56:37 PDT 2015


Mike, help us out with some titles?

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From: xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of mike cole
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Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: "Language Gap" forum in JLA

did you see my paper on this issue using bill hall's work?
Its one of my list of topics lurching along

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On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Peter Smagorinsky <smago@uga.edu> wrote:

> I agree. The "word gap" research has often been conducted using 
> standardized vocabulary tests that assume that if words aren't on the 
> tests, then they don't really count. And guess whose words are on the 
> tests? Not the kid in the housing project or barrio.
>
> But I've heard well-regarded university professors refer to the 
> Matthew Effect of rich getting richer and poor getting poorer based on 
> how kids are talked to at home. How many white university 
> researchers--the sort of people who makes these claims--have ever 
> tried to get up a housing project staircase to talk to anyone and see 
> what they're saying and where they learned it from? (I say staircase 
> because when I lived in Chicago, a chronic problem of high rise 
> housing projects was that gangs would disable the elevators as soon as 
> they opened and patrol the lobbies and stairwells to control life in 
> the building.)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:
> xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of mike cole
> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 2:21 PM
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: "Language Gap" forum in JLA
>
> Very interesting paper. It is amazing how the culture of poverty has 
> made such a comback.
> mike
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 11:18 AM, mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> wrote:
>
> > thanks!!
> > mike
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Peter Smagorinsky <smago@uga.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> >> A lot of pretty smart contributors to this forum. p
> >>
> >>
> >
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> > --
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> > All there is to thinking is seeing something noticeable which makes 
> > you see something you weren't noticing which makes you see something 
> > that isn't even visible. N. McLean, *A River Runs Through it*
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
>
> All there is to thinking is seeing something noticeable which makes 
> you see something you weren't noticing which makes you see something 
> that isn't even visible. N. McLean, *A River Runs Through it*
>
>


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All there is to thinking is seeing something noticeable which makes you see something you weren't noticing which makes you see something that isn't even visible. N. McLean, *A River Runs Through it*



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