[Xmca-l] Re: Provocative song

[Daniel Hyman]

For those with a fondness for text, and with all appropriate incantations
to the gods of fair use:

https://www.musixmatch.com/lyrics/Boyinaband/Don-t-Stay-in-School

As someone who loves being educated (no quotes) on virtually any topic, but
found the how-to knowledge offered to novice teachers (at least in New
York), falling short of what a practicing educator needs to know, I can
relate to the song's sense of painful unpreparedness, in my field. Not to
the sense that public schools must (or in some domains can) teach how to
make all personal moral choices, or that all subjects must be practical,
e.g. being a bank customer (and no "impractical" subjects, e.g. math,
underpin them), or that home life need not inculcate an interest in current
events, history, or politics.

So to me, the song is easy to reject at first, but on reflection...

On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Bill Kerr <billkerr@gmail.com> wrote:

> Also,
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJIu7pE0lBA
>
> some of the core issues for discussion are identified there IMO
>
> Equal rights and democracy would have appeal to disempowered students but
> how can abstract maths be made more interesting, a more difficult question.
> It may not be possible to make some very important stuff more interesting.
> Marx complained about having to study the "economic shit".
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Lara Beaty <larabeaty@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > And here’s an interesting follow-up:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCM4GEBDjz4. Thanks for this link!
> > Something to definitely use with my students to provoke a discussion.
> >
> > Best,
> > Lara
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jul 19, 2015, at 6:28 PM, David Preiss <preiss.xmca@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear colleagues,
> > >
> > > Some may like this song, some others hate it. It sounds to me like a
> > worth
> > > expression of many things going wrong with contenporary schools
> > everywhere.
> > > I am glad to see this coming from the younger generation as adult talk
> > > about education scarcely listen what kids and young have to say about
> > what
> > > is being done to them at school. (I don't support the final statement
> of
> > > the song, of course; still find the message in the bottle quite on
> > target).
> > >
> > > https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=w3cyYMyj2QM
> > >
> > > A bit of a renewed version of Pink Floyd's The Wall in a new genre.
> For
> > > those of you exploring new expresions, may be worth of your time.
> > >
> > > David
> >
> >
> >
>