[Xmca-l] Re: Engels on Laws of evolution and laws of history

[Andy Blunden]

I found the Russian version of LSV CW, volume 3.
It has the correct quote from the Russian edition of Engels' Dialectics 
of Nature.
The "laws of history" is a creation of the translator, Marie Hall.

Engels and Vygotsky not guilty!

Andy
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*Andy Blunden*
http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/


Andy Blunden wrote:
> I'm sure you are right there, Juan!
> Here's Engels' original German:
> /"Die ewigen Naturgesetze/ verwandeln sich auch immer mehr in 
> historische." MEW, Vol. 20, p. 505
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> Andy
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> *Andy Blunden*
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> Juan Duarte wrote:
>> Hello, I think Engels is also speaking about the historical nature of 
>> all knowledge, for example newtonian physics. It´s a central aspect 
>> of marxism that the way of knowing is historically situated, and it´s 
>> goes not just for historical science but also for natural ones. Of 
>> course, it doesn´t mean to fall into relativism but to take in 
>> account that science is social, economical and political embedded and 
>> in capitalism, mercantilisation and fetichisation reaches it.
>>
>> Greets,
>>
>> Juan D.
>>
>> 2015-01-18 0:18 GMT-03:00 Annalisa Aguilar <annalisa@unm.edu 
>> <mailto:annalisa@unm.edu>>:
>>
>>     Hi Andy,
>>
>>     I guess the ends of the ham will be cut off and the reason will
>>     remain a mystery, since grandma isn't picking up the phone!
>>
>>     Kind regards,
>>
>>     Annalisa
>>
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>>     Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Engels on Laws of evolution and laws of 
>> history
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>>     Just read the context, Annalisa. I supplied the link,
>>     Any
>>     
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>>     *Andy Blunden*
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>>     Annalisa Aguilar wrote:
>>     > Hi Andy,
>>     >
>>     > Doesn't the theory of evolution imply that nature's laws are
>>     variable? How can it be "more and more?" which seems to imply
>>     acceleration to me.
>>     >
>>     > What I suppose is lost upon me is how natural laws become
>>     historical laws.
>>     >
>>     > What do you mean by "historical laws"?
>>     >
>>     > I'm getting semiotically lost, in a doppelgänger sort of way...
>>     >
>>     > Kind regards,
>>     >
>>     > Annalisa
>>     >
>>     >
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>>
>> -- 
>> Juan
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