[Xmca-l] Re: Sociocritical Literacies and more context
Aria Razfar
arazfar@uic.edu
Sat Jan 3 13:31:07 PST 2015
Francine,
Yes, there is variation in the definitions. The stance I had in mind was an
indigenous one like the one articulated by Peter.
Aria
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Message from Francine:
Aria,
I appreciate your definition of decolonialism, but when I look om the
internet I find the term used different ways.
> From: arazfar@uic.edu
> To: xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu
> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 13:21:34 -0600
> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Sociocritical Literacies and more context
>
> Francine,
>
> "Postcolonialism" and "Orientalism" definitely demonize the West, and
> self proclaimed "subalterns" do all the speaking and the "West" does
> all the listening. Decolonialism is the realization that this stance
> might have been necessary but it clearly isn't sufficient. The cases
> you mention illustrate that, where so-called "oppressed" become
> oppressors themselves. I am espousing continued two-way communication
> and dialectic interaction on more symmetrical grounds. There is no
> need to undermine "the West" or "save the East" or vice versa. I am
> imagining the outcome of "going East" for the "Western" intellectual
> the emergence of a West that see itself as East, and an East that sees
> itself as West otherwise it is perpetual antagonism and "culture wars"
> as you describe. I'm not sure about your characterization of the roots of
the internet.
>
> Aria
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of larry smolucha
> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 12:46 PM
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Sociocritical Literacies and more context
>
> Message from Francine:
>
> How can you have a dialectic or a discourse with the 'other'
> (i.e. the so-called Western intellectual) when the rhetoric of
> postcolonialism, decolonialism, and Orientalism demonizes the West?
> At the very same time, that ISIL, el Shabbab, Boko Haram, are the
> oppressors massacring thousands of Christians and Muslims, - and it is
> the West that has to intervene to save these innocent lives.
>
> You are espousing a one way communication in which self-labeled
> subalterns want to do all the speaking, and have the people they have
> designated as their oppressors do all the listening.
>
> There is also the irony, that the internet is a product of Western
> technology
> - wasn't the world wide web designed by the U.S. military? If it is
> O.K. to use Western 'tools' to undermine the West , then this is not
> decolonialism but merely culture wars.
>
>
>
> > From: arazfar@uic.edu
> > To: xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu
> > Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 11:44:30 -0600
> > Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Sociocritical Literacies and more context
> >
> > Greg and Annalisa,
> >
> > The question you raise, and a point made earlier by Peter, seems to
> > me the outcome of post-colonial literature. This is why there is a
> > need for the "Western intellectual" to "go East." This was the
> > conclusion of Edward Said's "Orientalism" and other post-colonial
> > theorists. Since the time of Napoleon, the "Western intellectual"
> > had been going east, engaged in "subaltern studies" for the purpose of
conquest and cultural domination.
> > He/She must now "go East" to hear/listen to the "other" in order to
> reclaim
> > its self and embrace a pedagogy of "decolonization." If the "Western
> > intellectual" is the oppressor, then "going East" to "hear" is
> > his/her pedagogy. I believe this was at the at the heart of Freire's
> > "Pedagogy of the Oppressed" as well. A pedagogy that is just as
> > "critical" and
> liberatory
> > for the so called "oppressor" as it is for the so called
> > "oppressed." This is a dialectic missing in today's critical, ethnic,
and "subaltern"
> studies
> > programs.
> >
> > Aria
> >
> > Aria Razfar, Ph.D.
> > Associate Professor of Literacy, Language, and Culture Director of
> > Graduate Studies, Curriculum and Instruction University of Illinois
> > at Chicago
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> > Chicago, IL, 60607
> >
> > Director of English Learning through Mathematics, Science and Action
> > Research (ELMSA) www.elmsa.org
> >
> > Webpage: http://education.uic.edu/personnel/faculty/aria-razfar-phd
> > Tel: 312-413-8373
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> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
> > [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Annalisa
> > Aguilar
> > Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 11:02 AM
> > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> > Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Sociocritical Literacies and more context
> >
> > Hi Greg,
> >
> > You know, I think you are on to something there.
> >
> > As long as there isn't a subsequent Oppression of the Pedagogy of
> > the Oppressors, I think it could work!
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Annalisa
> >
> >
> > On Jan 3, 2015 9:21 AM, Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
wrote:
> >
> > Seems to me that Spivak's "Can the subaltern speak?" is just as much
> > a question of "Can the Western intellectual hear/listen?"
> >
> > Makes me wonder about articulating a Pedagogy of the Oppressors.
> >
> > -greg
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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