[Xmca-l] Re: Hiroshima and us

Rafi Santo rsanto@indiana.edu
Thu Aug 6 09:30:52 PDT 2015


It's hard to know which of the two instances being discussed here is more
disturbing in terms of what they say about organized societies. The
dropping of the atomic bomb(s) highlights the willingness of humans to
engage in specific decisions to engage in an act that they know will result
in instantly decimating 10s of thousands of people in a fell swoop. The
asian holocaust highlights the willingness to engage in ongoing campaigns
of destruction of human life, actions which are too often both obscure in
moment as well as not nearly as highlighted in the historical record (at
least in case of the Asian Holocaust).

While not entirely parallel, the bombing of the World Trade Center one on
hand and resultant contemporary wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (and attendant
loss of life) come to mind in that the events have similar qualities in
terms of the meanings that are linked to them.

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 12:10 PM, larry smolucha <lsmolucha@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Please post this on XMCA:
>
> Message from Francine:
>
> Reflecting on the bye gone days before an atomic bomb (or incendiary
> bombing) could kill
> 70,000 people at one day - yes it did take the Japanese in WWII six weeks
> to kill  300,000 Chinese in 1937 in the Rape of Nanking, weeks to kill
> 100,000 civilian Philippine civilians in 1945 in the Rape of Manila and
> 100,000 civilian in 1942 in the Rape of Singapore. Total estimate of
> civilians and prisoners of war killed by the Japanese in WWII is from 3
> million to 10 million people (it is called the Asian Holocaust). This
> figure does not include those soldiers killed in combat fighting the
> Japanese Army.
>
> This does not diminish the tragic suffering and loss of life in Hiroshima,
> Nagasaki, and Tokyo.
>
> When entire cities are 'raped' for weeks not destroyed in one day is the
> suffering any less?
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 08:16:39 -0400
> > From: mcole@ucsd.edu
> > To: xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu
> > Subject: [Xmca-l]  Hiroshima and us
> >
> > 70 years ago 70,000 people evaporated in Hiroshima, a few days after
> about
> > as many were killed by Dresden-style fire bombing in Tokyo and just
> before
> > like numbers were killed in Nagasaki.
> >
> > It seems worthwhile pausing for a minute to think about those bye gone
> days
> > when we humans were not as skilled at mass extinction as we are now.
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Both environment and species change in the course of time, and thus
> > ecological niches are not stable and given forever (Polotova & Storch,
> > Ecological Niche, 2008)
>
>



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Rafi Santo
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