[Xmca-l] Re: Some facts about cultural "triple packages"

[Dr. Paul C. Mocombe]

I am not a psychologist, but is this what is passing off as empirical psychological research?  On another note, can we get some real psychologists to weigh in on the impact of spanking children on their psychological development.  This Adrian Peterson thing is getting racial really quickly.  By the way, my parents would be in prison today based on how I was spanked....


Dr. Paul C. Mocombe
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<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: "Henry G. Shonerd III" <hshonerd@gmail.com> </div><div>Date:09/16/2014  1:12 PM  (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu> </div><div>Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Some facts about cultural "triple packages" </div><div>
</div>I am struck by how inauthentic (phony?) Chua and her husband are, even more so than most TED talks. As I listened, I remembered the work by Ogbu on oppositional responses of "involuntary immigrants" (Blacks as slaves, Native Americans and Hispanics caught up in the movement of national borders). I have heard Ogbu has been criticized, but he convinced me.
Henry

On Sep 16, 2014, at 4:59 AM, Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu> wrote:

> Thanks for sending, Greg. I also found it hard to keep watching. I have read Amy Chua's "tiger mom" book, and this TED talk seems to be a way to validate and extend the parenting ideas that she lays out in the book (which I find to be harsh and a bit mean-spirited). I have many issues with their claims, but I'll just mention two.
> 
> First, I don't think their generalizations/facts are very useful. They perpetuate the idea, for example, that stereotypes are acceptable, especially if they're "true," which is probably where the comment that they're racist came from. It is also unhelpful to tell white, middle class parents one more time that "other" kids are going to outperform their kids and their kids are falling behind. This sort of scarcity rhetoric hurts kids and parents, in part because it sets up an us/them dichotomy.
> 
> Second, as Greg said, there's no theory. I am suspect of facts, such as these, without theory because they don't account for how the facts were produced. 
> 
> Katie
> 
> Katie Wester-Neal
> Doctoral Candidate
> University of Georgia
> 
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> 
> On Sep 15, 2014, at 11:41 PM, "Greg Thompson" <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Been enjoying the party, and apropos of David's call for some facts (which
> I'm in full support of - despite being a theory-wonk), I thought I'd offer
> this Ted talk that was sent to me by an LCHC colleague:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHUMcxaqm9U
> 
> Lots of facts in there, and not a little theory.
> 
> They've got big claims about the facts of their program in inner-city
> schools and about inequality too (you have to listen to the end to hear
> about that).
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> Anything to it?
> 
> Anyone have any facts to counter their facts?
> 
> -greg
> 
> ​p.s., I'm still listening to it right now. Not sure I'm going to be able
> to stomach the entire talk... getting a little queasy. Feeling like someone
> is selling me something that is going to cost me a ton and I'm not going to
> like. Ugh..​.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Department of Anthropology
> 882 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
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>