[Xmca-l] Re: units of analysis? LSV versus ANL

[mike cole]

I would go for mutual constitution, Martin. Is speech a form of action or a
form of activity? A lot of Russian arguments on that score that I find
difficult to sort out.
Mike
(Who is certainly missing a lot!)

On Friday, October 17, 2014, Martin John Packer <mpacker@uniandes.edu.co>
wrote:

> Mike,
>
> Am I reading correctly this extract that you have highlighted ?  ANL says
> that LSV saw verbal communication occurring under conditions of activity,
> whereas ANL himself proposes that activity occurs under conditions of
> language and communication. Put this way, both formulations seem incorrect.
> First, speech is a form of activity; second, (nonverbal) activity can
> circumscribe speech, and speech can circumscribe activity. That is to say,
> there is a relation of mutuality between the two. What am I missing?
>
> Martin
>
> On Oct 17, 2014, at 12:58 PM, mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> > Thus, Vygotsky’s proposition that consciousness is a product of the
> child’s
> > verbal communication under conditions of his activity and in relation to
> > the material reality that surrounds him must be turned around: the
> > consciousness of a child is a product of his human activity in relation
> to
> > objective reality, taking place under conditions of language and under
> > conditions of verbal communication.
>
>
>

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