[Xmca-l] Re: how to broaden/enliven the xmca discussion

[mike cole]

Thanks Paul --

Could you take me a little further? Others might have the same question:
How do the Searles and Austin views of semiotic mediation differ, Paul,
such that Martin's formulation only works for one of them?

And how do they coincide, or differ, from Halliday's views, David Ke?

What are the major implications of the differences??

mike

On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Dr. Paul C. Mocombe <
pmocombe@mocombeian.com> wrote:

> Martin,
>
> I would suggest that they are semiotic in John Searles theory of speech
> act, but not austin's.
>
>
> Dr. Paul C. Mocombe
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> <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: mike cole <
> mcole@ucsd.edu> </div><div>Date:10/10/2014  7:48 PM  (GMT-05:00)
> </div><div>To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> </div><div>Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: how to broaden/enliven the xmca discussion
> </div><div>
> </div>Martin-- When I was driving home by myself and thinking about the
> conversation on xmca, it seemed like I might be thinking with words, but i
> was not articulating and someone might even claim that it was all a jumble
> of sense and meaning anyway. Would this be inconsistent with the belief
> that both acting and thinking are semiotic in character?
> mike
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Martin John Packer <
> mpacker@uniandes.edu.co>
> wrote:
>
> > Might some kind of reconciliation be possible here by recognizing that
> > both acting and thinking are *semiotic* in character?  Acting requires
> > ongoing interpretation of signs (icons, indices, symbols) in the world.
> > Thinking ditto, the difference being that verbal thinking (thinking with
> > words), at least, requires articulating that interpretation in the form
> of
> > new signs.
> >
> > ?
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > On Oct 8, 2014, at 9:09 AM, Larry Purss <lpscholar2@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I am asking if Andy and David will follow David's *lead* by exploring
> > > *mind* through what David *indicates* is Vygotsky's KEY INSIGHT that
> word
> > > meaning is BEST understood -
> > >
> > > "as MODES  of semantic abstraction and generalization THAN as
> operations,
> > > actions, and activities."
> > >
> > > This notion of BEST ways to *indicate* the sense of word meanings.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> It is the dilemma of psychology to deal with a natural science with an
> object that creates history. Ernst Boesch.
>
>


-- 
It is the dilemma of psychology to deal with a natural science with an
object that creates history. Ernst Boesch.