[Xmca-l] Re: Phenomenology as lived experience

[Greg Thompson]

Try this:
http://www.haujournal.org/index.php/hau/article/view/hau4.1.021
You should be able to get the pdf from here.
-greg

On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Carol Macdonald <carolmacdon@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Greg
>
> Please could you send me the reference details?  I'd love to have a look.
>
> Thanks
> Carol
>
> On 2 October 2014 19:05, Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Larry,
> > and here is a recent articulation of the problematic of splitting reason
> > from lived activity. It is from Tim Ingold's paper "That's enough about
> > Ethnography" in the open source journal Hau:
> >
> > "These questions, however, are founded upon a certain understanding of
> > immanence and transcendence, deeply rooted in the protocols of normal
> > science,
> > according to which human existence is constitutionally split between
> being
> > in the
> > world and knowing about it. The alleged contradiction between
> participation
> > and
> > observation is no more than a corollary of this split. As human beings,
> it
> > seems, we
> > can aspire to truth about the world only by way of an emancipation that
> > takes us
> > from it and leaves us strangers to ourselves (Ingold 2013: 5).
> > Anthropology, surely, cannot passively acquiesce to this excision of
> > knowing
> > from being. More than any other discipline in the human sciences, it has
> > the means
> > and the determination to show how knowledge grows from the crucible of
> > lives
> > lived with others. "
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 7:01 AM, Larry Purss <lpscholar2@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Greg,
> > > Your inquiry of the *gap* forming when perception requires separating
> > from
> > > and re-composing or the perceptual field disappears from awareness has
> be
> > > reflecting on *lived experience*, Peirce's firstness, and *mediation*.
> > >
> > > Imagine a musical score played as a living experience.
> > > Now imagine a musician playing each single note as notated on the
> musical
> > > score and re-cording each *individual* note.
> > > After playing each note and re-cording the individual notes the
> musician
> > > re-assembles and plays back the notes in a series.
> > > How do you imagine the experience of listening to this reassembled
> > > individual notes which had been composed as singularities. Would
> anything
> > > be *missing* .Would we be orienting to go BEYOND the singular notes. Is
> > > there *something* in EXCESS of the individual notes played in a series?
> > Can
> > > this *something extra* be indicated through the concept of *lived
> > > experience* as phenomenological??
> > > Is this lived experience *intersubjective* [or intrasubjective if you
> are
> > > trying to imagine that there are not two discrete individualities who
> > > exist first as subjects and then meet and conjoin].
> > >
> > > Intersubjective as I use the term is phenomenological in a similar way
> > that
> > > music is internotational AS living [not lived] experience.
> > >
> > > In language use, John Shotter's saying as lived experience in contrast
> > with
> > > the said.
> > >
> > > Peirce tried to re-configure *reasoning* as a practice [I would say a
> > lived
> > > experience] as distinct from the *theory* of reasoning or metareasoning
> > > [reasoning about reasoning].
> > >
> > > I have a sense [and Peirce would include BOTH perception AND inference
> in
> > > sense] that music that is played as individual notes is an abstracting
> > > secondary derived practice extracted from the lived experience. When
> the
> > > individual notes are reassembled in a series, and the gaps filled in
> > > between each note *something* will still be missing [and deadened] in
> the
> > > re-playing [the said]. What I think [or infer or sense] is missing is
> the
> > > actual lived experience between I and Thou [the phenomenological
> > > experience]] that is always in EXCESS of our abstracting and analyzing
> > > and reassembling of the individualities as notations.
> > > Larry
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
> > Assistant Professor
> > Department of Anthropology
> > 882 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
> > Brigham Young University
> > Provo, UT 84602
> > http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Carol A  Macdonald Ph D (Edin)
> Developmental psycholinguist
> Academic, Researcher,  and Editor
> Honorary Research Fellow: Department of Linguistics, Unisa
>



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Department of Anthropology
882 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
Brigham Young University
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