[Xmca-l] Re: About Vygotsky and Bar-Kokhba [Бар-Кохба (בר כוכבא‎)]. Bella or somebody can instruct me?

[David Kellogg]

Achilles:

Actually, Bar Kochba was the real Jesus Christ. There was a biography of
Christ called "Zealot" written not long ago which raised a big scandal in
the USA because it was written by a Muslim. The really revolutionary thing
about the book, though, was that it tried to understand what Christ must
have meant to the Jews of his time. Actually, there were hundreds of
Christs--political leaders of the Jews who declared themselves Messiahs and
tried to get rid of Roman rule, ending up crucified.

Bar Kochba was different because he actually succeeded. That is, the Romans
were expelled from Judea, and a real Jewish state was set up for three
years (until 132 AD, if I remember correctly). Then the Romans took Judea
back, and murdered everybody even remotely connected with the successful
rebellion. The Christians, who had never been sympathetic to the rebellion
in the first place (because of course they had already had their Messiah)
at this point became a strongly pro-Roman religion, and decided to convert
non-Jews, eventually winning over the Emperor himself.

As you probably know, there was a big debate over "Liberation Theology" in
Latin America during the sixties. A lot of this centred around the
discovery by some Latin American priests that prior to the pro-Roman turn,
Christianity had been a strongly revolutionary creed associated with
someone who was, in essence, a somewhat premature Bar Kochba.

A final note, just because I like to tie threads together and we have been
talking about play. The Forbidden Colors game which Leontiev uses in his
studies of attention and will is related to a traditional Jewish
"Yes/No"game called "Bar Kochba".

David Kellogg
Hankuk University of Foreign Studies





On 21 June 2014 14:49, Achilles Delari Junior <achilles@delari.net> wrote:

> Please, dear professors,
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>
> In front Vygotsky's publications about poetry, theatre and arts in
> general, from Gomel's 1921/1922 period, I turn motivated to know something
> about the relation of Vygotsky as man (tchelovek), citizen and young
> thinker, with different kinds of insurgent social process, struggling for
> freedom. For instance there are, at least, 3 different situations of this
> kind touched by him in those newspaper publications : (1) Bar-Kohba; (2)
> The Dekabrists; and (3) October Revolution. But what more deeply touch me
> is just the first one, because I really do not know nothing about, and
> seems to be very very important in Jewish long history for Land and
> Freedom. And, believe me or not, this is important for many people here in
> my country, not necessarily Jews. If you pleased, could you help me to find
> more reliable sources about the historical process in which was envolved
> Bar-Kohba? If the answer would be excessively obvious - sorry for spend
> your time with me. I will search better by myself. Thank you, a lot.
>
>
> Achilles, from Brazil.
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