[Xmca-l] Re: Fwd: [Методология и история психологии] Фильм, посвященный А.В. Суворову - психологу

[Wagner Luiz Schmit]

Thank you for your reply Professor Cole,

I will take a look on this book! Thanks for the indications!

And as a curiosity, It has been a long time since I last saw "Butterflies
of Zagorsk", so what are you critics towards it?

Wagner


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 1:34 PM, mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am glad you took the time to watch the film, Wagner. Apparently it did
> not catch the attention of other xmca members. It arrived when I was on my
> way to the mountains so I sent it without watching because i knew of the
> great interest in this work. Then I watched and waited for someone to
> notice.
>
> The film is upsetting in many respects. It does more than obliterate
> history,
> it perverts it.
>
> Note the fare offered by RT, apparently an English language government
> sponsored program that is arrayed in ads along the side of the video.
>
> I have looked everywhere for a copy of Butterflies of Zagorsk, but have
> not found it. It, too, had its shortcomings, but at least it did not treat
> Meshcheryakov and Mikhailov and others who championed these people in
> another dark time like invisible criminals.
>
> Very sad indeed. I prefer Mescheryakov's book, Karl Levitin's little
> monography, *One is not born a personality*, and my own personal
> experience to undrstand Sasha Suvorov's fate.
>
>
> mike
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Wagner Luiz Schmit <
> wagner.schmit@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you very much! I really appreciate the sharing of this Professor
>> Cole, so please take the bellow criticism as to the documentary and not for
>> your sharing. And a bit of salt for my emotional response when I see the
>> remains of Zagorsk played with by religion, common sense psychology and
>> sensationalist mass media. No wonder Ilyenkov killed himself. We live in a
>> sick society, but all fingers are pointed to the individual when it comes
>> to what to blame...
>>
>> It is a shame they don't say the name of the school, the name of the
>> researchers who where behind it, the theory that inspired it... But we
>> know...Also bad that they say Vygotsky dreams of the potential of
>> development with sarcasm and even as a dangerous thing (the suicide part),
>> and they say it straight that the experiment was "cruel" by an
>> "specialist", so all must accept our faith (it even begin in a church) and
>> destiny (biology determined his life from the beginning, trying to fight it
>> was foolish), not surprisingly the only "famous psychologist" to appear is
>> Freud in the background... And ending trying to convince him that he can
>> only be happy accepting what he is and "God"....
>>
>> But what a inspiring figure Alexander Suvorov is, no wonder he is
>> immediately surrounded by children in the Zagorsk documentary. And through
>> all the documentary they appear to try to negate him, to deny him, to make
>> his achievements an exception or even an error. But his comments and his
>> life still give hope!
>>
>> And still looking for a good English version of the "Butterflies of
>> Zagorsk"...
>>
>> Wagner
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 8:17 AM, mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Film about Alexander Suvorov, the blind-deaf Russian psychologist.
>>> mike
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