[Xmca-l] Re: Chomsky, Vygotsky, and phenomenology

[Martin John Packer]

Chomsky wrote a book called 'Cartesian Linguistics.'

Husserl wrote one called 'Cartesian Meditations'!

Martin

On Dec 17, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Dr. Paul C. Mocombe <pmocombe@mocombeian.com> wrote:

> Vera,
> 
> When you say chomsky is a Cartesian are you saying he is a rationalist in the kantian camp?  Chomsky refers to himself and his efforts as kantian.  By no means would i call kant a Cartesian.  I would call Husserl a Cartesian? But not Kant and Chomsky. ..see the video below:
> 
> Watch "Noam Chomsky - Ideas of Chomsky BBC Interview (fu…" on YouTube
> Noam Chomsky - Ideas of Chomsky BBC Interview (fu…: http://youtu.be/3LqUA7W9wfg 
> 
> 
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> <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Vera John-Steiner <vygotsky@unm.edu> </div><div>Date:12/17/2014  12:53 PM  (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: "'eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity'" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu> </div><div>Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Chomsky, Vygotsky, and phenomenology </div><div>
> </div>While Chomsky is indeed very influential his approach to language and its
> acquisition is opposite to that of Vygotsky. He focuses on syntax while
> Vygotsky focuses on semantics.
> He proposes an innate language acquisition device while Vygotsky approaches
> language developmentally. (I am repeating some of Carol's points.) He is a
> Cartesian,while Vygotsky
> Opposed mind/body dualism. And the list goes on.
> I don't think he can be integrated into CHAT.
> Vera
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
> [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Carol Macdonald
> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 7:37 AM
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Chomsky, Vygotsky, and phenomenology
> 
> Do you think Chomsky knows he is? Howard Gardner is a very generous fellow.
> 
> On 17 December 2014 at 16:28, Martin John Packer <mpacker@uniandes.edu.co>
> wrote:
>> 
>> oh, I just read your second paragraph...
>> 
>> Howard Gardner lists Noam Chomsky as one of the "founders of cognitive 
>> science," along with Jerome Bruner, John McCarthy, George Miller, and 
>> Allen Newell (1985, p. 23).
>> 
>> Gardner, H. (1985). The mind's new science: A history of the cognitive 
>> revolution. New York: Basic Books.
>> 
>> Martin
>> 
>> On Dec 17, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Carol Macdonald <carolmacdon@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Well yes, and as linguistic and psychology student I was very proud 
>>> of
>> him
>>> for his review, it made me laugh and laugh.  But Chomsky never read
>> Piaget
>>> or Vygotsky.  He would have been interested in Vygotsky's 
>>> interpretation
>> of
>>> Behaviousrism.
>>> 
>>> As to cognitive psychology - well I suppose we should be pleased, 
>>> but Chomsky had no direct hand in that.
>>> 
>>> Carol.
>>> 
>>> On 17 December 2014 at 14:49, Martin John Packer <
>> mpacker@uniandes.edu.co>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Chomsky knew enough about psychology to write a devastating review of
> B.
>>>> F. Skinner's book 'Verbal behavior,' which still makes very 
>>>> interesting reading. And Chomsky's own book 'Syntactic Structures' 
>>>> was one of the
>> key
>>>> components in the emergence of cognitive psychology in the late 
>>>> 1950s,
>> as
>>>> Howard Gardner's book makes clear.
>>>> 
>>>> Martin
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Carol A  Macdonald Ph D (Edin)
>>> Developmental psycholinguist
>>> Academic, Researcher,  and Editor
>>> Honorary Research Fellow: Department of Linguistics, Unisa
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> --
> Carol A  Macdonald Ph D (Edin)
> Developmental psycholinguist
> Academic, Researcher,  and Editor
> Honorary Research Fellow: Department of Linguistics, Unisa
> 
>