[Xmca-l] Re: The Highlander Center in Tennessee
Andy Blunden
ablunden@mira.net
Mon Aug 25 08:23:55 PDT 2014
Hopefully "Road Walking" will arrive here in the next day or two Greg. I
do prefer a hard copy in my hand if I can get it.
Yes, I was struck by his understanding of conflict as ever-present and
ineradicable, but bringing it to the surface makes it possible to
transform the situation. All very Hegelian, :)
Andy
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*Andy Blunden*
http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
Greg Thompson wrote:
> Peg and Andy,
> RE: chat and crises, Horton also has a moment where he notes the
> importance of conflict (this is when Moyers asks him about violence).
> He says that conflict is always there and in a sense it is the
> starting point.
>
> Andy, in his conversation with Freire, there is an interesting
> discussion about "experts". Horton is not as cynical about expert
> knowledge as Freire. Horton seems to see it more as a tool to be used
> by the local community in their collective decision making. He
> describes bringing a very concerned and well intentioned lawyer into
> Highlander to explain to the parents what their options are. After the
> lawyer explained their options he started to tell them what he thought
> they should do. At that point, Horton describes how he had to forcibly
> take the guy by the arm and haul him out of the room so that this
> expert didn't make the decisions for those who were most familiar with
> the situation. Horton said as he was pulling the guy out of the room,
> the guy kept right on talking to the very last.
> Good intentions...
>
> Here is a link to the pdf of the Freire-Horton book We Make the Road
> by Walking (what a great title!):
> http://codkashacabka.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/we-make-the-road-by-walking-myles-and-paolo-freie-book.pdf
> Made some great Sunday reading.
> -greg
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 6:57 AM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net
> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>> wrote:
>
> he, he! yes. His approach is quite consonant with CHAT principles!
> ... but not many school teachers have the pupils pointing a gun at
> their head demanding the teacher stick to the 3Rs, or something. :)
>
> Andy
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *Andy Blunden*
> http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
> <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>
>
> Peg Griffin wrote:
>
> In the precis you gave of the interview, Andy, I see clearly
> that it fits into Luria's dual stimulation method and more
> generally into development in crises/critical moments.
> PG
>
>
> On Monday, August 25, 2014 6:33 AM, Andy Blunden
> <ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks so much for this, Greg,
> Listening to the guy (it took me all day to get through this 2
> hour
> video!) it comes across much clearer than I could get it from
> various texts.
> Around the 48 min mark he tells how this tough union group
> came up to
> Highlander to work through a problem they had, and they came
> to Horton
> and said they wanted him to make the decision for them because
> they
> couldn't resolve it. Horton refused. So they put a gun to his
> head to
> make their point. Still he refused.
> I was looking for where/how he *taught* collective
> decision-making, but
> it is clear now, by just insisting that people "take charge of
> their own
> lives" and demanding that while at the Center they run the
> whole place,
> together, and refusing ever to make a decision or tell them
> what ought
> to be done, they learnt how to make collective decisions, in
> their own way.
> In the autumn of 1959, when the students who were later to
> create SNCC
> came to Highlander (as opposed to the unionists CIO had been
> sending),
> this had the particularly spectacular outcomes which I am
> interested in.
> Sorry to be a little cryptic, but it's a work in progress.
> Thank you Robert and Peg and Greg for your assistance.
>
> Andy
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *Andy Blunden*
> http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
> <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
> <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>
>
>
> Greg Thompson wrote:
> > and I started watching this nice special titled "Myles
> Horton: Radical
> > Hillbilly":
> > http://vimeo.com/30650519
> >
> > It is a Bill Moyers journal and the nice part about it is
> most of it
> > is Moyers interviewing Horton. From what little I know, it
> seems to
> > give a very good sense for the man.
> >
> > -greg
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Goncu, Artin <goncu@uic.edu
> <mailto:goncu@uic.edu> <mailto:goncu@uic.edu
> <mailto:goncu@uic.edu>>
> > <mailto:goncu@uic.edu <mailto:goncu@uic.edu>
> <mailto:goncu@uic.edu <mailto:goncu@uic.edu>>>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, this information is much appreciated. ag
> >
> >
> > On Sun, August 24, 2014 7:29 pm, Andy Blunden wrote:
> > > Thanks Greg. That does work better. :)
> > > Very tantalizing for me. I have no doubt that
> everything I need
> > is in
> > > those boxes. :)
> > > Andy
> > >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > *Andy Blunden*
> > > http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
> <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
> <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
> > <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
> > >
> > >
> > > Greg Thompson wrote:
> > >> I think a "d" was missing at the beginning of the link
> you sent
> > Robert.
> > >>
> > >> Here is full link:
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search
> <http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search>
> <http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search
> <http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search>>
> >
> <http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search
> <http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search>
> <http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search
> <http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search>>>
> > >>
> >
> <http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search
> <http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search>
> <http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search
> <http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search>>
> >
> <http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search
> <http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search>
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> <http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search>>>>
> > >>
> > >> Fantastic resource!
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> greg
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Robert Lake
> > >> <boblake@georgiasouthern.edu
> <mailto:boblake@georgiasouthern.edu>
> <mailto:boblake@georgiasouthern.edu
> <mailto:boblake@georgiasouthern.edu>>
> > <mailto:boblake@georgiasouthern.edu
> <mailto:boblake@georgiasouthern.edu>
> <mailto:boblake@georgiasouthern.edu
> <mailto:boblake@georgiasouthern.edu>>>
> > <mailto:boblake@georgiasouthern.edu
> <mailto:boblake@georgiasouthern.edu>
> <mailto:boblake@georgiasouthern.edu
> <mailto:boblake@georgiasouthern.edu>>
> > <mailto:boblake@georgiasouthern.edu
> <mailto:boblake@georgiasouthern.edu>
> <mailto:boblake@georgiasouthern.edu
> <mailto:boblake@georgiasouthern.edu>>>>>
>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi Andy and Everyone,
> > >> Here is the link to the digital archives for
> Highlander at the
> > >> University
> > >> of Wisconsin.
> > >>
> > >> >
> igicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search
> <http://igicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search>
> >
> <http://igicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search
> <http://igicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search>
> <http://igicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search
> <http://igicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search>>>
> > >> >
> <http://igicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search
> <http://igicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search>
> <http://igicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search
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>
>
> >
> <http://igicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search
> <http://igicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search>
> <http://igicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Andy Blunden
> > <ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>
> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>>
> > >> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>>>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Robert,
> > >> > I have a memoir written by Angeline Butler about
> her time at
> > >> Highlander in
> > >> > 1959 before joining SNCC and she reports being taught
> > consensus
> > >> > decision-making. I know Horton placed a lot of
> emphasis on
> > >> forcing students
> > >> > to make their own decisions, and I have a memoir
> from an
> > African
> > >> student at
> > >> > the International Peoples College at Helsingor on
> which
> > Horton
> > >> based
> > >> > Highlander, which tells of a specific exercise in
> consensus
> > >> decision
> > >> > making. I think it may have come under the heading of
> > "conflict
> > >> > resolution". What I don't have is any independent
> > corroboration
> > >> of Angeline
> > >> > Butler's testimony and nor do Horton's notes
> about what
> > he learnt
> > >> at
> > >> > Helsingor mention conflict resolution or any kind of
> > >> decision-making.
> > >> > Mainly about bonding.
> > >> >
> > >> > Any thoughts?
> > >> > Andy
> > >> >
> > >> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> > *Andy Blunden*
> > >> > http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
> <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
> <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
> > <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
> > >> <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Robert Lake wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Hi Andy,
> > >> >> Yes I do. Start with this .
> > >> >> http://highlandercenter.org/about-us/history/
> > >> >>
> > >> >> And this biography of Myles Horton
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> >
> http://www.amazon.com/The-Long-Haul-An-Autobiography/dp/0807737003
> > >> >> and the biography of Septima Clark.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> http://www.amazon.com/Freedoms-Teacher-Life-Septima-
> > >> >> Clark/dp/0807872229/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=
> > >> >> 1408889271&sr=1-2&keywords=septima+clark
> > <http://www.amazon.com/
> > >> >>
> Freedoms-Teacher-Life-Septima-Clark/dp/0807872229/ref=sr_1_
> > >> >>
> >
> 2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1408889271&sr=1-2&keywords=septima+clark>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I have written a piece on her as well and will
> send it this
> > >> afternoon.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I think the book We Make the Road by Walking: A
> dialogue
> > >> between Myles
> > >> >> Horton and Paulo Freire
> > >> >> is one of the best books on both these leaders.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> More Later,
> > >> >> Robert Lake
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I will send more this afternoon.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Andy Blunden
> > >> <ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>
> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>>
> > <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>
> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>>> <mailto:
>
>
> > >> >> ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>
> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>>
> > <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>
> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>>>>> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Does anyone on this list know about the
> Highlander
> > Center,
> > >> what
> > >> >> used to be called the Highlander Folk School?
> > >> >> The people there are very helpful, but
> they're also
> > rushed
> > >> off
> > >> >> their feet (like everyone, I guess) and if there
> > were any
> > >> other
> > >> >> sources of information about it, that would be
> > helpful. I'm
> > >> >> particularly interested if anyone is familiar
> with what
> > >> they were
> > >> >> doing in the 1950s and 60s.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Andy
> > >> >> --
> > >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> >> ------------
> > >> >> *Andy Blunden*
> > >> >> http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
> <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
> <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
> > <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
> > >> <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
> > >> >> <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> *Robert Lake Ed.D.
> > >> >> *Associate Professor
> > >> >> Social Foundations of Education
> > >> >> Dept. of Curriculum, Foundations, and Reading
> > >> >> Georgia Southern University
> > >> >> Secretary/Treasurer-AERA- Paulo Freire Special
> Interest
> > Group
> > >> >> P. O. Box 8144
> > >> >> Phone: (912) 478-0355 <tel:%28912%29%20478-0355>
> <tel:%28912%29%20478-0355>
> > <tel:%28912%29%20478-0355>
> > >> >> Fax: (912) 478-5382 <tel:%28912%29%20478-5382>
> <tel:%28912%29%20478-5382>
> > <tel:%28912%29%20478-5382>
> > >> >> Statesboro, GA 30460
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >> *Robert Lake Ed.D.*Associate Professor
> > >> Social Foundations of Education
> > >> Dept. of Curriculum, Foundations, and Reading
> > >> Georgia Southern University
> > >> Secretary/Treasurer-AERA- Paulo Freire Special
> Interest Group
> > >> P. O. Box 8144
> > >> Phone: (912) 478-0355 <tel:%28912%29%20478-0355>
> <tel:%28912%29%20478-0355>
> > <tel:%28912%29%20478-0355>
> > >> Fax: (912) 478-5382 <tel:%28912%29%20478-5382>
> <tel:%28912%29%20478-5382>
> > >> Statesboro, GA 30460
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
> > >> Assistant Professor
> > >> Department of Anthropology
> > >> 882 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
> > >> Brigham Young University
> > >> Provo, UT 84602
> > >> http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Artin Goncu, Ph.D
> > Co-editor, Mind, Culture, and Activity:An International
> Journal
> > Professor Emeritus,
> > University of Illinois at Chicago
> > College of Education M/C 147
> > 1040 W. Harrison St.
> > Chicago, IL 60607
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
> > Assistant Professor
> > Department of Anthropology
> > 882 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
> > Brigham Young University
> > Provo, UT 84602
> > http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Department of Anthropology
> 882 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
> Brigham Young University
> Provo, UT 84602
> http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
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