[Xmca-l] Re: A Question about Reading and Motivation

[mike cole]

Interesting comment, Phillip. Kind of like nature/nurture. People declare
the debate
over and it chugs right along unheeding.

In that long ago article that I cited no the lchc website, we were trying
to supercede the debate by creating a way of organizing the interactions
around text in a way we thought was related to ideas we(probably mis)
appropriated from Vygotsky and Leontiev.

To little avail, judging by the evidence! But, then, our "solution" created
problems for
standard classroom organization that were very real for teachers/schools
involved. So its
one thing to come up with a solution "in vitro" and quite another to
implement that solution
on a broad enough scale "in vivo" (across a wide range of real, long
entrenched set of cultural practices and their social norms) so that it
becomes the norm.

Yet another reason to be humble in our claims for the utility of what we do.
mike



On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 7:25 AM, White, Phillip
<Phillip.White@ucdenver.edu>wrote:

> at first i wanted to respond to this posting by citing research that
> disputes the claim regarding the superiority of disec over balanced reading
> instruction, but realizing that this disagreement predates the korean war,
> and that it's akin to the creationist / evolution dispute i decided that
> really just like arguments for white superiority, some positions are best
> ignored.
>
> phillip
>
>
> Phillip White, PhD
> Urban Community Teacher Education Program
> Site Coordinator
> Montview Elementary, Aurora, CO
> phillip.white@ucdenver.edu
> or
> pawhite@aps.k12.co.us
> ________________________________________
> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu]
> On Behalf Of Bill Kerr [billkerr@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 2:55 AM
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: A Question about Reading and Motivation
>
> The evidence suggests that whole language or "balanced" teaching of early
> reading does not work very well (for many, not all) and that "direct,
> intensive, systematic, early, and comprehensive (DISEC) instruction, of a
> prearranged hierarchy of discrete reading skills (particularly, how to
> apply phonics information to recognize written words), is the most
> effective beginning reading tuition".
>
>