[Xmca-l] Re: Mystery progressive educator?

[White, Phillip]

Spencer's father was an advocate of Pestalozzi.

P

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While Herbert'soriginal passage praises Pestalozzi, (moving from concrete to abstract, student pleasure, etc.) Herbert expresses reservations--then note the kicker in the last phrase of Mike's redaction Though it does not appear in the version I found (http://psycnet.apa.org/index.cfm?fa=buy.optionToBuy&id=2008-18628-002)
"Humanity has progressed solely by self-instruction..."
How easily student centered education gets enlisted into ego-centric!
Chuck

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> Even earlier, Herbert Spencer, 1870's.
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> Phillip
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> And, in 1896, http://www.gutenberg.org/files/20513/20513-h/20513-h.htm
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> http://archive.org/stream/teachingoforalen00bolerich/teachingoforalen00bolerich_djvu.txt
> includes the quote as its framing perspective, so it must have
> impressed a few people. Note that the book is from 1914, the year
> before Vygotsky began his work on The Psychology of Art.
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> Ran across the following interesting statement by accident and was
> surprised a little at the authorship. I thought others might be
> interested in it as well. I'll leave off authorship because part of
> what I found interesting was in figuring out who it was.
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> mike
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> Children should be led to make their own investigations, and to draw
> this won inferences. They should to *told* as little as possible, and
> indeed to *discover *as much as possible. Humanity has progressed
> solely by self-instruction;
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