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[Xmca-l] Re: meaning in action (movement) of living form

Your remarks about Goethe resonate for me, Larry.

See the attached for my (brief!) ruminations on "Grey is every theory,
evergreen the
tree of life."

In my case the idea was encountered in connection with Luria, which
reinforced the feeling that we have quite similar world view under
discussion despite the breadth of citations in the current multiplex


On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Lplarry <lpscholar2@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am never sure when to continue a thread and when to start a new thread.
> Rein was mentioning *pattern* formation in relation to culture.
> My preoccupation is to focus on meaning and meaning *potential*.
> Annalisa recently attached an article by John Shotter exploring the
> methods of Vygotsky and Goethe.
> Shorter is making a distinction between living form and dead form and
> posits a particular pattern occurring *within* the reciprocal movements of
> living forms that do not occur when engaged with dead forms.
> Shorter is making a case that,
> “ it is only from within our involvements with other living things that
> this KIND of meaningful, responsive, understanding becomes available to us.
> THIS kind of meaningful pattern formation, experienced as movement from
> *within* responsive type *understanding*, exists through responsiveness
> towards other living forms. Inquiry into this kind of *meaning potential*
> requires methods focused on growing things.
> The contrast Shotter makes is with dead assemblages that can be
> *constructed* piece by piece from what he refers to as (objective) parts.
> These parts of an assemblage retain their character and value irrespective
> of whether they are part of an assemblage.
> With living forms, this is impossible for the parts to retain their
> character.
> What is the central focus for Shotter is where the meaning *exists*?.
> Shorter focuses on the present activity in terms of living *within* these
> living -responsive – forms
> As he emphasizes it is only from within our involvements with other living
> forms that these KINDS of meaningful patterns *arise* and become
> *available* (conscious??) to us in our movements.
> May or may not contribute to the topic of perezhivanie and liquid
> modernity and *containing* (not containers as reified essence).
> Sent from my Windows 10 phone


It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with an object
that creates history. Ernst Boesch

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