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[Xmca-l] Re: Vygotsky.Peirce.Mediation
- To: Andy Blunden <email@example.com>, "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
- Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Vygotsky.Peirce.Mediation
- From: mike cole <email@example.com>
- Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 17:20:18 -0700
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I mis-wrote, Andy. I did not mean to say that YOU held that view, Andy.
Rather, your note about a bridge presupposing two entities raised the issue
clearly. Alfred held challenged me on this very point, insisting he was a
dualist and using Peirce as his tool of thought. In any event, the document
you forwarded has a lot of history of semiotics, Peirce, and LSV, and xmca.
And the belief among some that Vygotsky was a dualist remains. That is what
makes Peirce such an interesting 'third'.
If one googles Alfred Lang on the lchc website homepage lchc.ucsd.edu, a
list of relevant documents comes up.
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Andy Blunden <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> Goodness, I will really have to work harder to make my meaning clear, I
> was trying to say that in the tradition running through Hegel and Marx that
> Vygotsky was *not* a dualist.
> I'm not sure which document captures the discussion Mike was talking of
> but try this:
> Andy Blunden
> On 22/06/2016 1:54 AM, mike cole wrote:
>> The header is a three word summary of the topic that seems to have emerged
>> to engage discussion, James, so maybe use that
>> or put together a header of your own. Semiotics could be there.
>> A discussion of this topic might begin by unearthing the discussions in an
>> earlier xmca generation. Arne Raeithel and Alfred Lang
>> led discussion on this topic as has, I believe, Jay Lemke. Alfred was
>> steadfast in his interpretation of Vygotsky as a dualist in
>> precisely the way that Andy did in a recent note. Its in the newsletter
>> the archives, or perhaps in Andy's computer.
>> Given that as background, what new insights can we gain from considering
>> these early efforts at mutual enlightenment via computer *mediated*
>> Could some of the core discussers organize to point us to prior
>> understandings of this nexus of topics from the xmca/xlchc archives?
>> That would provide a starting point for assessing the answer to my
>> question. Otherwise, I fear we will be unable to supercede a collective
>> level of discourse that corresponds more or less to chaining in a
>> Vygotskian conceptual hierarchy.
>> Summer Solstice Suggestion
It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with an object
that creates history. Ernst Boesch