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[Xmca-l] Re: Vygotskian Passage

This also has material about sending messages:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/vygotsky/works/1930/man/ch04.htm (especially the last few paragraphs)


Andy Blunden
On 15/06/2016 6:49 AM, Glassman, Michael wrote:

Yes, I think that's it.  I must have been merging this description with the strings used for memory described by Leontiev Bella pointed to.

Thanks so much, this solves one mystery in my life.  I wish they could all be answered so quickly.

Thanks so much,


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I think you are actually thinking of an incident that Vygotsky describes from the work of V.K. Arsen'ev. It's on p. 50 of Vol. Four of the Collected Works, and you can read it here:


See paragraph 118. There's also a footnote about it in "Concrete Psychology" (see number 14).

By some accounts, Vygosky was in correspondence with Arsen'ev, who wrote "Dersu the Trapper". Akira Kurasawa made this book into a wonderful movie, which you can see here.


David Kellogg
Macquarie University

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 4:32 AM, Glassman, Michael <glassman.13@osu.edu>

Thanks Bella.  The passage I remember, or think I remember, was
definitely along the same lines.


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xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Bella Kotik-Friedgut
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 2:46 PM
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Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Vygotskian Passage

The picture attached is from the book of Leontiev A.N. The development
Mind of a chapter on the historical development of higher forms of memory.

Sincerely yours Bella Kotik-Friedgut

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 8:50 PM, Glassman, Michael

I wonder if somebody might be able to help me.  I seem to remember a
passage from Vygotsky where he describes a person going between
villages, I think to deliver messages.  He uses some type of
external symbol system, maybe tying strings around his finger.  Does
anybody know if that really exists and if so where.

Thanks in advance to anybody who might be able to help.