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[Xmca-l] Re: Fwd: Re: Why I Won't Vote for Sanders
On this topic and linking to notions of collaboration counsel and con/sensus (thanks Andy) I would say the more encompassing the notion of *a movement* the more legitimate this notion *becomes* ( the notion of becoming concrete).
Bernie’s focus on *we* are a movement.
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From: Bruce Robinson
Sent: April 24, 2016 6:34 AM
Subject: [Xmca-l] Fwd: Re: Why I Won't Vote for Sanders
Apologies. Apparently the last version of this came through blank.
Like Andy, if I was an American I would vote for Sanders and also be
actively involved in his campaign, despite acknowledging the limitations
of his policies and him personally. That is not because I'm
unsympathetic to David Kelloggs' principles - which I broadly share -
but because I think Sanders' campaign, despite its Democratic label,
represents the best chance for a very long time of breaking a sizable
group of people away from two-party money-dominated politics for
something better and more to the left. Who would have thought a year ago
that millions of Americans would vote for someone who openly and
unapologetically calls himself a socialist? Is it not better to try to
talk to them, to convince them that they need to maintain an independent
organisation after Sanders' inevitable defeat as their aspirations will
never be met through the Democratic Party? Instead David proposes
waiting forever for something he doesn't believe will happen - a passive
and consumerist approach to a situation that has changed even compared
with four years ago.
Of course, whether anything better does emerge depends on a lot of
factors, not least how Sanders himself reacts. It might be possible to
make a cold, cynical assessment and say that the odds are against it. (I
have my own reasons to be cynical.In 1996 I attended the founding
convention of the Labor Party which ultimately foundered on the
unwillingness of some union kleaders to challenge the Democrats
electorally.) But unless the ground is tested it's impossible to know
and, even if it fails, the far left might still grow and become a more
visible force in US politics, certainly something that won't result from
the SWP's campaign.
Annalisa - some UK feminists welcomed Thatcher's election on the grounds
that a woman prime minister was a step forward. I don't need to tell you
what happened next. Hillary isn't Thatcher obviously. But there's also
the disappointed expectations that surrounded Obama as the first black
President. She is the candidate of Goldman Sachs, not of the women's