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[Xmca-l] FW: 4 experiencing fans

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From: "Larry Purss" <lpscholar2@gmail.com>
Sent: ‎2015-‎11-‎04 7:57 AM
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
Subject: Re: [Xmca-l] 4 experiencing fans

Further comments of Vasiliuk
The new psychology is an active, understanding, humanitarian psychology THAT *incarnates* a new SUBJECT MATTER *as* a LIVING THOU.  This subject matter which is now coming into formation in Russia since the 1980's.

I am *marking* this concept [subject matter] that is prior to subjectivity as the *space of play* [or situation]

The KEY is living experience *AND* silence. [prayer as a way of marking silence as this OPEN SPACE.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Larry Purss <lpscholar2@gmail.com> wrote:

I  access the 2nd article by Vasilyuk but I am curious that there is a silence concerning the focus on suffering and where experience ends prayer begins.  This place of mystery after the suffering of having *fallen away from ... [and] now returning to the source.  Hamlet and Ophelia AS symbolic incarnations of the *mythic* narrative. 
THIS neo-Platonic mytheme which streams through Western ways of *addressing* suffering through SILENCE. 
In the beginning is the word is better understood as *in the beginning was the 1st order word*. 
The article by Kym Maclaren on this 1st order word which has its genesis in silence [the gap or *ma*].
The KEY is *prayer* as answer to suffering. THIS is the *open space* of silence. The open space of the 1st order word which is being born in this *situation* The 1st order word is INHERENT within this situation [this space of play].

I suggest we take Vasilyuk AT *his word* and *hear* what he is saying here.

Why the *silence*??

On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 3:48 PM, mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> wrote:

Those interested in the later work of Feodor Vasiliuk on
perezhivanie/experiencing, here is new material free.




It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with an
object that creates history. Ernst Boesch