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[Xmca-l] Re: now out in paperback


Truth be told, on this thread suddenly I have more of a problem with this word "intrusion" than I do "indifference."

Intrusion is the new "in-" word!

If you were so inclined, you could read The Riddle of the Labyrinth by Margalit Fox. It's a fun read, I have mentioned the book before, I should get commissions for selling the book here. 

Kober gave a talk at Yale about Linear B, and came to be known as the expert, at least here in the States. Apparently Kober and Ventris had a rocky letter correspondence, but it is clear that she was willing to share. Everyone agrees were it not for her, Ventris would not have broken it. Even with help from Chadwick.

So you have to wonder, if the facts show that she was a part of the party, why she was never mentioned?

Oh I know, it's that way of some folks have a tendency to focus on the butter, instead of the cow, the milkmaid, and butter churn. Why, the butter just appears in little squares wrapped in foil! Remove the foil and there's the butter!!! 

There. I have discovered butter.

Kind regards,


From: xmca-l-bounces+annalisa=unm.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces+annalisa=unm.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu> on behalf of rjsp2 <r.j.s.parsons@open.ac.uk>
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Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: now out in paperback

I had to look up Alice Kober. Cigarettes again - somewhere there is a
paper waiting to be written about the contribution of tobacco paper and
packets to academic endeavour. This BBC article is a good summary of the
story: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22782620

In my youth I was well aware of both Ventris and his Cambridge
collaborator Chadwick. Needless to say the intrusion of a woman into
their research efforts was never mentioned, despite Ventris properly
acknowledging her contribution.

One of Chadwick's key contributions to the decipherment was the
introduction of cryptological methods honed at Bletchley during the
second world war. He was one of many Cambridtge dons who found their way
there. I was taught by several of them in the seventies, including
briefly Chadwick, whose teaching skills, sadly, did not match his
research abilities. (The same could be said of many Cambridge dons,


On 29/01/2015 22:42, Annalisa Aguilar wrote:
> Alice Kober

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