Re: [xmca] "Locating the experiment" - Scribner

[mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>]

The Glick observation was with the Kpelle in an earlier project, Peter
("Cultural context of learning and thinking," 1971 and later papers by
Joe. It for sure is directed at Luria's interpretation of his Central Asian
data. Sylvia did a fair amount of work on syllogistic reasoning in Liberia
and with young kids in the US. And it is certainly linked to the later work
in the construction zone.The mediating work was on the problem of
ecological validity carried out by McDermott, Hood, Trautmann, and myself.
Its on the lchc website for the curious.

mike

On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Peter Smagorinsky <smago@uga.edu> wrote:

>  Mike et al., in looking at this paper in Mind and Social Practice, I
> think that she’s addressing, if only implicitly, the kinds of problems that
> Luria created in subjecting Muslim rural peasants to Western sorting tasks.
> She references Joe Glick, who appears to have been part of the Vai study
> with Scribner and Cole, who changed the task, rather than assumed that a
> poor performance on the task indicated backwardness (Luria’s conclusion in
> Uzbekistan). I think it also anticipates a lot of the argument in The
> Construction Zone, where changing the task, rather than assuming
> incompetence of the test-taker, was the solution to learning difficulties.
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> That’s quite a brief reduction, but am I in the hunt? p****
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> *From:* mike cole [mailto:lchcmike@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, December 21, 2012 3:14 PM
> *To:* Peter Smagorinsky
> *Cc:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> *Subject:* Re: [xmca] "Locating the experiment" - Scribner****
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> Thanks Peter. It is really an article worth discussion here on xmca.****
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> I have begun to ask that other articles that have flown be up there.****
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> I see that even the article for discussion this issue is there. Hmm.****
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> Anyway, url is http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Paper/index.html for papers for***
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> discussion. There are some classics there when you look back.****
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> I am wondering what people thought about the mixing of Activity****
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> Theory and Critical Realism in the article on doing intervention research*
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> on african farming. Its not often that you see that kind of cross-cultural
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> application of the use of AT.****
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> mike****
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> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Peter Smagorinsky <smago@uga.edu> wrote:
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> Mike, it's also chapter 10 of Mind and Social Practice: Selected writings
> of SS, if your copy is at home.****
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On
> Behalf Of mike cole
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 1:38 PM
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture,Activity
> Subject: [xmca] "Locating the experiment" - Scribner****
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> A request for help
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> Does anyone have a copy of Scribner's 1975 article on locating the
> experiment in pdf form. The libraries are all closed up tight and I an
> hoping to read it before next year!
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> send to lchcmike at g mail dot com
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> thnx
> mike****
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