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Re: [xmca] PsyAnima Complete Vygotsky (What shall we do now?)
Chuck exactly today I just received proofs of my paper: GERMINATED SEEDS:
THE DEVELOPMENT OF VYGOTSKY’S PSYCHOLOGY OF ART IN HIS EARLY JOURNALISTIC
PUBLICATIONS (1916-1923),
but because I found there some mistakes I'll attach it later with a link to
the journal of my college where it will be published soon.
Bella Kotik-Friedgut
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 1:29 AM, Chuck Bazerman <bazerman@education.ucsb.edu
> wrote:
> Is anything being done about his pre-psychology drama and book reviews?
> Since language and literacy turned out to be so crucial to his later
> development, these might be of some value in understanding some of his
> approach. I know I have found the psychology of art quite useful--and have
> made some commentary on the translated version connecting it to some of his
> later thinking. This is in a book manuscript which I am hoping to publish
> next year. Chuck
>
>
> mike cole wrote:
>
>> I'll set about doing some scanning, Anton.
>> mike
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Sure Mike: as it has been announced, ALL items on the list of Vygotsky's
>>> works published during his lifetime
>>> will be electonically republished in different formats (i.e. as scans and
>>> as text files in doc, html, and/or pdf)
>>> in the near future. So, any originals of Vygotsky will be gladly and most
>>> gratefully accepted.
>>>
>>> Our definite priority at this point is:
>>> (a) larger works, such as books and paper collections
>>> (b) that were not included --or were most ferociously distorted-- in the
>>> six-volume Collected Works
>>>
>>> Thus, for instance, "Pedologiia podrostka" [Paedology of adolescent]
>>> (vols
>>> 1 & 2, 1929 & 1930 respectively)
>>> or, for example, "defectological" volume of collected works of various
>>> authors, edited by Vygotsky (1924),
>>> are already online, accessible 24/7. Neither has ever been republished
>>> until now. The rest of the kind will follow.
>>>
>>> However, other works -- smaller or relatively unharmed by Soviet editions
>>> -- are also of considerable interest.
>>>
>>> Luria, as well as virtually any other member of Vygotsky Circle, is of
>>> enormous interest, and many thanks for your offer.
>>> Yet, his works -- for copyright reasons -- should be treated with certain
>>> care. I should think it over.
>>>
>>> A "small collection of 1920's Russian journals", however, is of
>>> tremendous
>>> interest, so the more you might have
>>> in any scanned format -- as collections of image files (tiff, png, jpeg,
>>> etc.) or one file pdf -- the better!
>>> These are absolutely invaluable and will be uploaded among other journal
>>> materials that we currently
>>> have access to. Just please let me know the concrete details of these
>>> publications whenever you feel
>>> you might be able to get them scanned/copied/shared, etc. Alternatively,
>>> in case of any complications,
>>> we could provide scanning as soon as PsyAnima team has access to these
>>> materials.
>>>
>>> Izvestia APN that you mentioned are in principle also available, but not
>>> fully accessible yet.
>>> PsyAnima can do quite a lot, virtually anything, but, unfortunately, not
>>> all at the same time. So, this stuff will be released
>>> somewhat later, in due time.
>>>
>>> Finally, Dubna might be a nice place that, incidentally, presently hosts
>>> PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal,
>>> but it is not unlikely that in the foreseeable future the whole
>>> enterprise
>>> eventually and entirely goes global and
>>> looses its geographic denomination, becoming, thus, just a PsyAnima,
>>> Psychological Journal :). Also, I truly hope
>>> that neither Dubna nor any other place within Russian Federation will
>>> ever
>>> become " the center of the universe",
>>> which might looks like a pretty nightmarish perspective for the
>>> civilization :).
>>>
>>> However, speaking of the " the center of the universe ", you are
>>> certainly right in one respect:
>>> it is the *PsyAnima* anonymous and globally distributed group of
>>> scholars,
>>> experts and activists
>>> that is going to soon become " the center of the universe ", indeed!
>>>
>>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>
>>> *To:* Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>
>>> *Cc:* "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>; ulvi
>>> icil
>>> <ulvi.icil@gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:48:36 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [xmca] PsyAnima Complete Vygotsky (What shall we do now?)
>>>
>>> Do you have a list of texts you are anxious to reprint and make
>>> available,
>>> Anton? I have made about all the Luria stuff in journal form available
>>> online free. I do have copies of some of his books in English
>>> or Russian. I have a small collection of various 1920's Russian journals
>>> I
>>> obtained from Luria. Rossolimo
>>> and others.
>>>
>>> Would pdfs of those materials be useful?
>>>
>>> I have been wondering about the availability of Izvestia APN for the
>>> 1940's and 1950's. Do they exist in an accessible archive somewhere?
>>>
>>> Soon Dubna will be the center of the universe!
>>>
>>> mike
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:45 AM, Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>> More or less correct, Mike.
>>>
>>> In terms of support, here is the list of procedures, actions, and
>>> operations that participation in the project involves:
>>>
>>> 1) acquiring (i.e. copying, borrowing, scanning, purchasing) the texts
>>> 2) scanning
>>> 3) text recognition: automated, manual and combination of both
>>> 4) creating doc/pdf files: formatting , typesetting, etc.
>>> 5) uploading and distributing the product online FREE OF CHARGE FOR THE
>>> READERs
>>>
>>> That's basically it. Another set of activities is related to research
>>> (historical, textological, theoretical, etc.) work,
>>> then, importantly, translating this research into roughly half dozen
>>> languages of international Vygotskian science,
>>> thus, importantly, creating a layer of expert commentaries to the texts
>>> (same issues as in research), --
>>>
>>> but all this is some sort of super-structure. The basis is the texts and,
>>> having the texts, we can research or
>>> translate, or even print them out :). But the core needs to be created
>>> first.
>>>
>>> So, back to your question. We need any support that will help us to move
>>> further--people, partners, sponsors--
>>> whatever facilitates the development and improves the quality of the
>>> project. We have had rumours about texts
>>> instead of the texts for tooooo long. Enough: the time for action has
>>> come.
>>>
>>> AY
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>
>>> *To:* Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>; "eXtended Mind, Culture,
>>> Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
>>> *Cc:* ulvi icil <ulvi.icil@gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:37:21 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [xmca] PsyAnima Complete Vygotsky
>>>
>>> It appears that you are lacking any support from the united states,
>>> England, or Australia, Anton. Is that correct?
>>>
>>> If so, what sort of participation, support, and attention are you
>>> seeking?
>>>
>>> The text of a Luria text on monism and psychoanalysis that appears in the
>>> Kornilov volume is available from a translation in Soviet Psychology, I
>>> believe. It probably is not a translation up to your standards, but some
>>> might find it useful.
>>>
>>> Good luck with your ambitious project.
>>> mike
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>> Given that, as a series of recent studies most convincingly show, we do
>>> not know what exactly "Russian Vygotsky" is,
>>>
>>> and what we have instead is a bunch of texts distorted and/or falsified
>>> by
>>> their editors, -- in other words --
>>>
>>> we do not have a reliable collection of *original* Vygotsky's works --
>>>
>>> certain amount of work needs to be done to dis- and un-cover the original
>>> Vygotsky, in Russian, first.
>>>
>>>
>>> Later, a similar English/ Portuguese/ Italian/ German/ French/ Spanish/
>>> Hebrew/ Arabic/ Pharsi/ Turkish, etc.
>>>
>>> "Complete Vygotsky" project might be launched, if needed and if anybody
>>> is
>>> interested. However, a solid
>>>
>>> foundation of original Russian texts is a prerequisite of any further
>>> international developments of the kind.
>>>
>>> Also, comprehensive textological and historiographic work and a solid
>>> layer of expert scholarly commentaries is a must
>>> if we ever aim to have a major comprehensible collection of Vygotsky's
>>> text, regardless of language,
>>> that is, in Russian or in translation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ______________________________**__
>>> From: ulvi icil <ulvi.icil@gmail.com>
>>> To: Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>; "eXtended Mind, Culture,
>>> Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 10:35:34 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [xmca] PsyAnima Complete Vygotsky
>>>
>>>
>>> In Russian or in English?
>>>
>>> Ulvi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2012/11/14 Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>
>>>
>>> Finally, complete works of L.S. Vygotsky are in press: PsyAnima Complete
>>> Vygotsky --
>>>
>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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