Re: [xmca] "Rising to the concrete"

[mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>]

Which is to say, that human thought/word/action is always in part
"imagined"?
mike

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Larry Purss <lpscholar2@gmail.com> wrote:

> Huw
>
> Where do you locate the *as if* structure of understanding?  Wolfgang Iser
> proposes a literary anthropology model that posits the actual/real realm
> AND the imaginal realm  MEDIATED by the fictional.  In this model the
> distinctions or boundaries between the actual and the fictional are not
> distinct and clear.
>
> Larry
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > On 17 August 2012 19:03, Ivan Rosero <irosero@ucsd.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > In the interest of understanding you Huw, these two lines in your most
> > > recent post jumped out at me
> > >
> > > To assert that something is not relevant is to prevent such creative
> > > thinking...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Going back to the other contention, your assertion that analog and
> > > digital belong to a different frame is wrong.  The only possible truth
> of
> > > the assertion is that they have nothing to do with your frame...
> > >
> > >
> > > The following lines also struck me
> > >
> > > To abstract is to measure.  To measure is to compare.  Comparison is
> > > digital.
> > >
> > > These assertions create a pretty big universe of seemingly irrelevant
> > > things to thinking about abstraction and comparison.  I wonder, for
> > > example, if abstraction can be about something other than measuring?
> >  And,
> > > would the following sentence count as comparison?
> > >
> > > "A dog is kind of like a sheep."
> > >
> >
> > Yes, it can count as comparison.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > If yes, is this a "digital" comparison?  If no, what is this sentence
> in
> > > your estimation?
> > >
> >
> > Yes.   For the dog to be conceived of as like a sheep, you are comparing
> a
> > model of a dog with a model of a sheep.
> >
> > Likewise the only means of comparing the two living things is by various
> > measurements.  To say that one is like another is to compare conceptions
> > made from aggregated abstractions.
> >
> > But you could say "My dog is a sheep", which is not such a comparison.
> >
> > I do not like writing that someone is wrong, but then I do not like
> > obfuscation even more.  If you think it's out of place, please forgive
> the
> > harshness.
> >
> > Huw
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > ivan
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