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Re: [xmca] Peter Smagorinsky on concepts



This is the original "rising to the concrete," Huw:
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1857/grundrisse/ch01.htm#3
In middle of that paragraph beginning "It seems to be correct ...".

Andy

Huw Lloyd wrote:


On 17 January 2012 14:48, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>> wrote:

    Huw Lloyd wrote:

        The path of acquiring a concept is not the concept.   The
        flight of a moth and is not light.

        Huw

    1. Concepts are processes not entities or structures. Not only
    ontigenetically, but also microgenetically and culturally.


A structure is that which is unchanging relative to a process. One (slowly changing) process can be a structure for other processes. The recognition of the systemic material relations that comprise these structures and processes is my understanding of the term "rising to the concrete". From what I can gather from your contributions, Andy, this dynamic aspect of materiality is absent. In place of these dynamic material relations you have some flavour of idealism, which leads you to frame everything as a process or activity. Which suggests, to me, that you're not able to leverage any insights from the other side of the coin. This seems to be the main divergence.

Huw


    2. The "anatomy" of a real concept, as Vygotsky sees it, is the
    several paths of development contained in it. Vygotsky studied
    these paths of development in order to understand real concepts. A
    limb is not a person, but to understand the human body one must
    grasp its parts, its anatomy.


    Andy

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