Re: [xmca] Cultural Fogetting & social Amnesia

[mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>]

Yes, the complement of collective remembering is collective forgetting. I
recommend Kundera's novel, *the book of laughter and forgetting *for
interesting ideas about this
and allied issues.

And Bartlett is very important in these regards.
mike

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 7:27 AM, Larry Purss <lpscholar2@gmail.com> wrote:

> Mike and others discussing cultural memory and mediation
>
> Mike you asked us to consider Wertsch's project exploring cultural memory.
> Andy's drawing my attention to the larger context of artefacts n collective
> memory is particulary important for siuating "mere intersubjectivity" The
> question of the social relations and mediational processes constituting
> [not
> influencing or determining] mere intersubjectivity.  I read an artcle by Z.
> Vinchenko referring to his father's legacy on collective and personal
> memory
> The article is "Living Memory". In that article he points out the
> centrality
> of "collective forgetting" as a fundamental dialectical aspect constituting
> collective memory.  Collective forgetting as social amnesia.  Wertsch
> mentions he gathered stories of Russians who lived through the horrors of
> the gulag.
> The issue of "exile" and the role of collective forgetting in forming
> new beginnings through collective remembering.  I'm connecting this to the
> "debt crisis" and the "occupy wall street movement"  The debt crisis as a
> master MORAL narrative of collective memory with social amnesia at its
> center.  In North America social amnesia is a turning away and forgetting
> the denial of death and violence in the formation of the Nazi regime and
> the
> shame of being indebted after the 1st world war.
>
> Vinchenko mentions Bartlett was exploring the centrality of social amnesia
> to the forming of collective memory in his earlier works but when
> incorporated into the activity structure of a university shited to a focus
> on personal memory.  Intersubjective psychoanalysis has moved away from the
> notion of "repression" and now is deeply exploring "dissociation" as a
> process of turning away from vulnerability and dependency at the center of
> our humanness.  It is easy to accept and recognize in the mother-infant
> archetype but their is a denial of these dependency needs in adult
> relationships.
> Social amnesia and dissociation [as intersubjective social interactional
> aspects of narrativity] may need to be reflected on if the "debt crisis" is
> to shift from an economic master narrative to a moral master narrative.
> Larry
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