Re: [xmca] Vygotsky in English: What Still Needs to Be Done

[David Kellogg <vaughndogblack@yahoo.com>]

Anton et al:
 
First of all, thanks for what in my view is really PRICELESS work. The Plenum edition of Thinking and Speech has been out since 1987. Rene van der Veer has been suggesting that it is inadequate, and Luciano Meccaci has been promising full documentation of the inadequacies, but I think this is the first clear indication in print that we desperately need a new translation of this book, so that we miserable Anglophones may at long last learn that we don't know what we've been talking about.
 
Secondly--THREE questions:
 
a) You say that Chapter Three of Thinking and Speech was written in 1929, and you provide a very convincing reference to prove this. But the Authors Preface to Thinking and Speech does not include Chapter Three in the list of previously published works, and by implication says that it is being published for the first time. Can you explain?
 
b) There are two slightly different versions of "Tool and Sign in the Development of the Child", one in English and one in Russian. Do you happen to know which was written first (and when?)
 
c) Rene van der Veer and Ekaterina Zavershneva wonder why the unknown Vygotsky (rather than the better known Golosov or Sokolyansky or Sherbina) was sent to the London conference. But it appears that a LOT of people at the conference were not experts (e.g. Lord Whatzisface and the poor Japanese delegate). In China we used to send people abroad for the language proficiency rather than their technical expertise; mightn't the same thing have happened here?
 
Thanks again, Anton--you are a supernatural resource!
 
David Kellogg
Seoul National University of Education

--- On Mon, 6/6/11, mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote:


From: mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [xmca] Vygotsky in English: What Still Needs to Be Done
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 7:52 AM


Thanks, Anton.
Mythbusters super star!
mike

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 5:32 AM, Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone!
>
>
> For your information:   most recently several papers from the special
> Vygotskian
> issue of the journal Integrative Psychological and Behavioral Science have
> been
> released and are now fully available online (as html and pdf). These
> include:
>
> In Search of the Unknown: Introduction to the Special Issue
> René van der Veer
>
> http://www.springerlink.com/content/h438g3337j5520l7/
>
> Vygotsky in English: What Still Needs to Be Done
> René van der Veer and Anton Yasnitsky
>
> http://www.springerlink.com/content/278j5025767m2263/
>
> &
>
> To Moscow with Love: Partial Reconstruction of Vygotsky’s Trip to London
> René van der Veer and Ekaterina Zavershneva
>
> http://www.springerlink.com/content/375141xv6284506g/
>
>
> At a later time, there will be another paper, on Vygotsky Circle of several
> dozen Vygotsky's students and associates that will hopefully finally
> overturn
> the myth of the "troika da pyaterka" of his Apostles that keeps replicating
> in
> numerous accounts of Vygotsky's life story. I shall keep you posted...
>
> Have a nice reading!
>
> Cheers,
> Anton
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