Re: [xmca] Vygotsky courses

[mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>]

OK by me on xmca website.
mike

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:

> Could Shirley update her list? and maybe get Bruce to archive it on the
> LCHC website for future reference?
>
> Andy
>
> mike cole wrote:
>
>> Great start with that list.
>> Who is Tonyan at Northridge and why are we not in touch with her??
>> mike
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Ana Marjanovic-Shane <ana@zmajcenter.org
>> >wrote:
>>
>>  Dear Shirley,
>>>
>>> This is a great idea. Thanks for the work. I also have something to add,
>>> as
>>> Lois does.
>>>
>>> But I am afraid that we will create many different copies of the
>>> document.
>>> I will just send you the information.
>>>
>>> Reading through the document you sent, I became curious about details and
>>> content of some of the mentioned course. I think that the next step
>>> should
>>> be for us (XMCA) to somehow create a repository of the Syllabi for these
>>> (and other) course. A place where we all can share and enrich our courses
>>> with the ideas from each other. Would something like that be possible??
>>> There are already some websites where teachers share materials, lesson
>>> plans, syllabi and/pr reading lists.
>>>
>>> Thanks for such a great job, Shirley.
>>>
>>> Ana
>>>
>>>
>>> Here are details of my courses:
>>> Module: Educational Psychology, Level: undergraduate and graduate,
>>> Content:
>>> human development, learning theories, Place: Chestnut Hill College,
>>> Philadelphia, Name: Ana Marjanovic, Shane
>>> Module: Culturally Responsive Teaching Practices in Special Education,
>>> Level: Graduate, Content: social aspects of development, culture in
>>> development and education, Place: Chestnut Hill College, Philadelphia,
>>> Name:
>>> Ana Marjanovic-Shane
>>>
>>>
>>> __________________________
>>> Dr. Ana Marjanovic-Shane
>>> Assistant Professor of Education
>>> Chestnut Hill College
>>> e-mails:  Marjanovic-ShaneA@chc.edu
>>>                ana@zmajcenter.org
>>> Phone:    267-334-2905
>>> Chestnut Hill College…celebrating 85 years of tradition and risk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 2:14 PM, Shirley Franklin wrote:
>>>
>>>  Thanks Lois.
>>>> That would be great. I won't feel so badly about the incompleteness of
>>>>
>>> it, if people add to it!
>>>
>>>> Shirley
>>>> On 11 Feb 2010, at 19:04, Lois Holzman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  I have some to add to the list; shall I do so?
>>>>> Lois
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lois Holzman, Director
>>>>> East Side Institute for Group and Short Term Psychotherapy
>>>>> 920 Broadway, 14th floor
>>>>> New York NY 10010
>>>>> tel. 212.941.8906 ext. 324
>>>>> fax 718.797.3966
>>>>> lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org
>>>>> www.eastsideinstitute.org
>>>>> www.performingtheworld.org
>>>>> loisholzman.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 4:32 AM, Shirley Franklin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Various people have asked me for the collated list of courses on
>>>>>>
>>>>> Vygotsky.
>>>
>>>> I constructed the attached from the responses I received.I am sure this
>>>>>>
>>>>> is a just a soupcons of what people are doing.
>>>
>>>> Best
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shirley<Vygotsky Courses.doc>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11 Feb 2010, at 00:07, Andy Blunden wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Shirley,
>>>>>>> Any chance that you could share the results of your research last
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> year?
>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andy Blunden wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Steve, in May last year there was a discussion on xmca about
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Teaching Vygotsky", initiated by Shirley Franklin. Here's the
>>> thread:
>>> http://communication.ucsd.edu/MCA/Mail/xmcamail.2009_05.dir/msg00212.html
>>>
>>>> In this thread a lot of people gave information about the courses
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> they teach in CHAT.
>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>>>>> Steve Gabosch wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One aspect (of many) on the content side might be to collect course
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> syllabi from around the world.  I am thinking along the lines -
>>> perhaps too
>>> grandly? - that this project could become a place where materials from
>>> and
>>> information about hundreds of CHAT-relevant and CHAT-related courses -
>>> and
>>> sections of courses - from a wide variety of places and venues could be
>>> assembled and organized ... perhaps via a wiki.  It might be a useful
>>> resource to see so many syllabi from so many places inter-linked by
>>> topics,
>>> keywords, readings, etc.  Am I thinking too big here?  I wonder how many
>>> such syllabi are on the computers of xmca'ers alone as we speak ...
>>>
>>>>   - Steve
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 9, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Andy Blunden wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  OK, so while we're investigating options for archiving the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> resources, we need a process for drawing up a grand list of topics
>>> I think,
>>> so we can start assigning topics to lecturers, and recruiting speakers.
>>> The
>>> latter task involves all sorts of quality issues, whether technical,
>>> pedagogic or scientific, but first we need a kind of master program,
>>> probably enough topics for a 3-year course. :) No need to skimp on
>>> resources.
>>>
>>>> How do people want to start building that up?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Lois Holzman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be able to tell you about Vimeo tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>>>> Lois
>>>>>>>>>>> Lois Holzman, Director
>>>>>>>>>>> East Side Institute for Group and Short Term Psychotherapy
>>>>>>>>>>> 920 Broadway, 14th floor
>>>>>>>>>>> New York NY 10010
>>>>>>>>>>> tel. 212.941.8906 ext. 324
>>>>>>>>>>> fax 718.797.3966
>>>>>>>>>>> lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org <mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org>
>>>
>>>> www.eastsideinstitute.org <http://www.eastsideinstitute.org/>
>>>>>>>>>>> www.performingtheworld.org <http://www.performingtheworld.org> <
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://loisholzman.net/>
>>>
>>>> loisholzman.org <http://loisholzman.net/>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 9, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Andy Blunden wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Could you tell us about Vimeo, Lois? And Mike you will report
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> back what Bruce can tell us. What we need to know is:
>>>
>>>> * is it free and public domain?
>>>>>>>>>>>> * is it likely to remain free and open for a decade?
>>>>>>>>>>>> * can videos be uploaded by any self-registered user?
>>>>>>>>>>>> * can it store and stream hour-long videos reliably?
>>>>>>>>>>>> * is it under the sway of corporate interests?
>>>>>>>>>>>> * is additional tech support needed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lois Holzman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't read the messages carefully so apologies if I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> off...
>>>
>>>> We use Vimeo as the place to see our videos. It works fine!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lois Holzman, Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>> East Side Institute for Group and Short Term Psychotherapy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 920 Broadway, 14th floor
>>>>>>>>>>>>> New York NY 10010
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tel. 212.941.8906 ext. 324
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fax 718.797.3966
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org <mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org> <mailto:
>>> lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org>
>>>
>>>> www.eastsideinstitute.org <http://www.eastsideinstitute.org> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.eastsideinstitute.org/>
>>>
>>>> www.performingtheworld.org <http://www.performingtheworld.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.performingtheworld.org> <http://loisholzman.net/>
>>>
>>>> loisholzman.org <http://loisholzman.org> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://loisholzman.net/>
>>>
>>>> On Feb 9, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Andy Blunden wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is not terribly good news.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I only ever watch youtube when people embed videos on their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> FaceBook sites and this is pretty much what we'd be doing.
>>>
>>>> The reasons I have not volunteered marxists.org <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://marxists.org> <http://marxists.org> for video streaming
>>> is that I
>>> fear it may place too much load on our server and the name of the URL may
>>> offend some. On the first point, I will speak to the tech guy and see if
>>> this is real.
>>>
>>>> Another point.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was involved in setting up the lecture recording facility at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melbourne University. One of the factors was that we had to set
>>> up the
>>> streaming so that students had to be registered on the relevant course
>>> before they could view a lecture. An alternative was to prevent the video
>>> being watched from outside the university, but this was not good enough,
>>> because non-students could watch from within the university.
>>>
>>>> Surprisingly, it was not the bean counters who insisted on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this, but the lecturers, and it was not so much their
>>> "intellectual
>>> property" that they were worried about, but their peers getting to watch
>>> their performance. It is one thing to make a factual error in front of a
>>> group of students who don't know any better and your words disappear into
>>> the ether as soon as they are spoken, but quite another if your
>>> colleagues
>>> can watch and re-watch it around a cup of coffee and have a good laugh.
>>> Likewise, 30-second ummmmms, scrambling around with your notes, speaking
>>> in
>>> monotones, etc. A lecturer in finance said that if the comments he made
>>> about named businesses to illustrate his lectures were made public it
>>> could
>>> cause disruption to the stock exchange and also get him sued.
>>>
>>>> So, the restriction of the videos turned out to be the /sine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> qua non/ of streaming. Sorry to throw in a wobbly, but we need
>>> to hear from
>>> some of our lecturers about this.
>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Gabosch wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On this question of downloading from YouTube - here are some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links with relevant information.  Apparently, this question of
>>> downloading
>>> from YouTube is in the process of changing.  YouTube is exploring how it
>>> can
>>> make money allowing that.
>>>
>>>> First, on the YouTube terms and conditions.  One relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> condition is 5B, where it says: "You shall not copy or
>>> download any User
>>> Submission unless you see a “download” or similar link displayed by
>>> YouTube
>>> on the YouTube Website for that User Submission."
>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/t/terms
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some political videos began to get "download" buttons about a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> year ago.
>>>
>>>> http://news.cnet.com/some-youtube-videos-get-download-option/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Video ripping has become more difficult, and is obviously not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an option for us.
>>>
>>> http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2009/02/---mark-milian.html?cid=149000259
>>>
>>>> The really important thing from our point of view that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changing is YouTube is starting to charge fees for that
>>> download button.
>>>  Note that, according to this next article, some universities are using
>>> YouTube to provide lectures free.  But are they paying YouTube some kind
>>> of
>>> fee for this service?  And most important, does, or might YouTube and
>>> Google, provide a free download option to non-profit, educational efforts
>>> such as ours?
>>>
>>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/12/AR2009021203239.html
>>>
>>>> All the above articles are about a year old, so there are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably newer developments.  I am just learning about all
>>> this.
>>>
>>>> The above links are all from the current article on YouTube in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wikipedia.  A relevant passage from that article is copied
>>> below.
>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Content accessibility
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of the key features of YouTube is the ability of users to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> view its videos on web pages outside the site. Each YouTube
>>> video is
>>> accompanied by a piece of HTML <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML>,
>>> which
>>> can be used to embed it on a page outside the YouTube website. This
>>> functionality is often used to embed YouTube videos in social networking
>>> <
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_networking> pages and blogs <
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blog>.^[80] <
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube#cite_note-79>
>>>
>>>> YouTube does not usually offer a download link for its videos,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and intends that they are viewed through its website
>>> interface.^[81] <
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube#cite_note-80>  A small number of
>>> videos, such as the weekly addresses by President Barack Obama <
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama>, can be downloaded as MP4 <
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-4_Part_14> files.^[82] <
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube#cite_note-81>  Numerous third-party
>>> web sites, applications and browser plug-ins <
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in_(computing)<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in_%28computing%29>
>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in_%28computing%29>>
>>>
>>> allow users to download YouTube videos.^[83] <
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube#cite_note-82>  In February 2009,
>>> YouTube announced a test service, allowing some partners to offer video
>>> downloads for free or for a fee paid through Google Checkout <
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Checkout>.^[84] <
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube#cite_note-83>
>>>
>>>> *****************
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Steve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 9, 2010, at 8:43 AM, Mabel Encinas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you can. I have done it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mabel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 15:56:06 +0000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: infrastructure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: laires11@gmail.com <mailto:laires11@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:laires11@gmail.com> <mailto:laires11@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> To: ensemble2010@googlegroups.com <mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ensemble2010@googlegroups.com> <mailto:
>>> ensemble2010@googlegroups.com>
>>> <mailto:ensemble2010@googlegroups.com>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure about that (but I think it´s possible).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luísa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9 February 2010 11:43, Steve Gabosch <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stevegabosch99@gmail.com <mailto:stevegabosch99@gmail.com>
>>> <mailto:
>>> stevegabosch99@gmail.com> <mailto:stevegabosch99@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have an interesting technical question about YouTube.  One
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>
>>>> of course get a streaming download from YouTube while
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connected to
>>>
>>>> the internet, but can one also download the file of a video
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>
>>>> they can show it later without being connected to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet?
>>>
>>>> - Steve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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