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[xmca] About emotions, culture and language



Peter,

You are welcome. Your concerns are very important. Perhaps we can
try to put language as a key word to this topic, based in your observation.
I remember LSV saying about the first language function be not "express
emotions" but "asking for help"... (1931 - History of development of
higher psychic functions)... But this can seems something contradictory 
in terms... Because "asking for help" can be at the same time to express
some emotional gap of satisfaction with something, I presume... Another
problem that your post makes me wonder is about how we designate our
own emotions by language, and how can this transforms and/or constitutes
emotion itself... But now I will try only to listen to you all...

Best wishes, thanks.
Achilles.  

> Subject: Re: [xmca] About emotions - compilation from nov. 24 to dec. 01 - 2009
> To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> CC: achilles_delari@hotmail.com; xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu
> From: pfeigenbaum@fordham.edu
> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 10:24:03 -0500
> 
> Wow. Thanks, Achilles, for providing such a stimulating topic for
> discussion.
> The contributions from the group have supplied marvelous food for thought.
> 
> One idea that this discussion evoked in me that was not really touched upon
> by others concerns the relation between language and emotion. I was
> reminded
> of John Dore (a linguist who investigated the development of children's
> conversational skills), who used to tell his students that "emotion rides
> on the
> back of words". He believed a speaker's tone of voice communicates an
> emotional message, and that the words chosen are intended to reinforce that
> emotional message with cognitive content.
> 
> At least, that's the case when adults speak to children. To make the
> message
> easier to understand, adults tend to formulate their speech to children in
> such
> a way as to make the verbal message consistent with the tone-of-voice
> message.
> This  consistency between the two channels makes the emotional message less
> complicated for children to grasp. Adult-to-adult speech, on the other
> hand, often
> involves messages that conflict, with the tone of voice communicating an
> emotional
> message that is inconsistent with the linguistic expression. Using these
> channels
> strategically makes it possible to communicate an emotional message of one
> kind (for example, communion) with a verbal message that is in some way at
> odds
> with it (such as non-compliance).
> 
> This state of affairs makes me think that expressing emotion is very much
> at the
> functional heart or center of human verbal communication, and that the
> development
> of word meaning introduces the possibility of both extending that
> expression into
> the cognitive domain where it can be further articulated, and also
> complicating it
> by surrounding it with additional messages.
> 
> Anyway, thanks again for the thoroughly enjoyable thread!
> 
> Best wishes,
> Peter
> 
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>              Achilles Delari                                               
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> 
> Hi XMCA,
> 
> I compiled all the posts to "XMCA - ABOUT EMOTIONS",
> includind "emotion and culture" and all related to topic.
> from November, 24 to December, 01, 2009. There was
> 82 posts, in chronological order, with all authors indenti-
> fication, in pdf format - 46 pages.
> 
> If you wish.
> 
> Thank you,
> Achilles.
> 
> P.S. I can update later.
> 
> 
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