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Re: [xmca] Re: Berlin Wall "poetry"

Greg, David, et al.--

David "decoded you" just fine, Greg. But your post and its ambiguity are a
reminder of how difficult it is to communicate irony and like ambiguities in

Thanks to you both for your sincere efforts at getting us to member (in
resistence to
re-membering). Kind of sobering that David thinks maybe 50 years more of
re-membering will bring us closer to the events in question. Betting on the
non-linearity of cultural history; it is non-linear, I believe, but whether
in its spinning around it gets closer to Eden is to hope for the best.

Lets hope.

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Gregory Allan Thompson <
gathomps@uchicago.edu> wrote:

> David P, yes, this re-enactment is very sobering. And I know
> this isn't your point, but I thought I would mention that my
> last post was probably in poor taste. Not a good idea to make
> light of what was a very serious situation and a very
> important moment in history.
> It was prompted by a strange interview I heard with the Hoff
> on NPR that morning and I googled it later that day and saw
> the original video and was struck by the absurdity of the
> moment - everything from the jacket to the lyrics (which
> didn't seem to have anything to say) to the horrific singing
> to the audience reaction (which was mildly antagonistic).
> Needless to say in his interview with NPR, the Hoff painted a
> very different picture of what happened (he even suggested
> that they would probably invite him back for the 20th
> anniversary - don't think it happened).
> Anyway, apologies for the poor taste.
> Best,
> greg
> >
> >Message: 2
> >Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:46:30 -0300
> >From: David Preiss <ddpreiss@me.com>
> >Subject: Re: [xmca] Berlin Wall "poetry"
> >To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
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> >
> >Hi Greg,
> >
> >Yes. This is, indeed, laughable and a mass media inspired
> perversion
> >of a historical moment. And, surprisingly staged, for what
> supposedly
> >was, according to these days reporting, a spontaneous
> situation. Who
> >know how spontaneous it really was. Maybe we will know 50
> years from
> >now.
> >
> >Still, it does not make the DDR less oppressive of what it
> was. Check
> >this contemporary artistic re-enacment:
> >
> >http://www.stasi-live-haft.de/en/index.php
> >
> >Certainly, it makes me think of Guantanamo and their unknown
> secret
> >analogues.
> >
> >Thanks for sharing!
> >
> >David
> >
> ---------------------------------------
> Greg Thompson
> Ph.D. Candidate
> The Department of Comparative Human Development
> The University of Chicago
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