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Re: [xmca] Tool-use induces morphological updating of the body schema
- To: Ivan Rosero <email@example.com>
- Subject: Re: [xmca] Tool-use induces morphological updating of the body schema
- From: Mike Cole <firstname.lastname@example.org>
- Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:55:13 -0700
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How about Japanese who write in Kanji and you can see them "thinking to
themselves"" using hand movements that are miniatured
writing "to think with."?
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Ivan Rosero <email@example.com> wrote:
> Reminds me of the well known "personal space" that grows to cover the space
> around one's car while driving. Now, given that I don't walk into my house
> after driving a car and still think that I'm 12 ft. long and 8 ft. wide, it
> makes sense to me to think of these somatosensory (de)adaptations as highly
> dynamic and contingent processes.
> When, however, tool use is systematic during the course of long stretches
> of time, so that one becomes an "expert" tool user (a craftsman) then I
> think the change is much more permanent than the transitory effects of
> ad-hoc adjustment, which seems to be what the paper is describing (like the
> car example).
> And once this happens, the actual mind-body internalization of a tool, it
> then becomes available to thought and
> social processes (I would expect) in qualitatively more subtle and wide-ranging ways.
> Actually, this doesn't have to be phrased so cautiously, it can be
> routinely observed among members of particular communities of practice, say
> construction workers, laboratory laser engineers, teachers... I mean, the
> highly specific ways tools mediate social interaction and provide
> metaphors/scaffolds for thought.
> Anyway, it would be interesting to neuro-image, and otherwise test and compare, the population in the article with individuals who habitually make use of reaching/grasping extenders in order to compensate for limited mobility,
> that is, with an expert population.
> Thanks for the article Michiel,
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Mike Cole <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
>> Thanks you BOTH for that lesson in modern communication. The topic is
>> fasicinating. Man makes himself, re-dux?
>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Ivan Rosero <email@example.com> wrote:
>>> doi refers to the "document object identifier", it is a universal ID
>>> which you can "resolve" to various sources. The following site
>>> can be used to do this. It resolves the ID to
>>> Lucilla Cardinali, Francesca Frassinetti, Claudio Brozzoli, Christian
>>> Urquizar, Alice C. Roy, Alessandro Farnè. Tool-use induces morphological
>>> updating of the body schema. Biology Vol 19 No 12
>>> which is attached.
>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Mike Cole <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
>>>> Michiel-- Your message did not come through. It appears to be a doc.
>>>> Nice web page!!
>>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Eijck, M.W. van <email@example.com>
>>>> > This may be of interest to this community:
>>>> > doi:10.1016/j.cub.2009.05.009
>>>> > Michiel
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