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RE: [xmca] Re: Vygotsky and Wund (asking for help)



Thank you Mike,
Achilles

> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:21:34 -0700
> From: lchcmike@gmail.com
> To: delari@uol.com.br; xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> CC: 
> Subject: [xmca] Re: Vygotsky and Wund (asking for help)
> 
> Hi Achilles-
> 
> A short version of Volkerpsychologie exists in English. It is a late summary
> of the many volumes he
> wrote in German. There is an excellent discussion of early ideas of
> volkerpsychologie available at lchc.ucsd.edu in a Newsletter article by
> Krewer and Jahoda. Jahoda subsequently wrote more about
> this in his book on psychology and anthropology.
> mike
> 
> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Achilles Delari Junior
> <delari@uol.com.br>wrote:
> 
> > Thank you, I didn't see yet. I look for it here in Amazon high now, and
> > looks a
> > very beautiful work. Congratulations. Do you know something about any
> > English
> > publication fo the Wundt's "Völkerpsychologie"? We don't have a Portuguese
> > publication, and Germany is completely far way from my possibilities...
> >
> > Thank you. You help me a lot, like all the other times.
> >
> > Best.
> >
> > Achilles.
> >
> >
> >
> > Em 30/05/2009 00:45, Mike Cole &lt; lchcmike@gmail.com &gt; escreveu:
> >
> >
> > Achilles-- I write about these connections some in "Cultural Psychology."
> > If you have not seen that, take a look and then lets go from there. There
> > are some good
> > books in English which delve into related connections.
> >  mike
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Achilles Delari Junior &
> > lt;achilles_delari@hotmail.com <lt%3Bachilles_delari@hotmail.com>&gt;
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dear Mike,
> >
> > Excuse me for take your precious time, but: can you help me by
> > indicating something about *Wundt and Vygotsky relationships*? Do you
> > know, I have studied a little about history of Brazilian psychology, and
> >  there was a psychologist here that wrote books similar to the Vygotsky's
> > ones, not necessarily in epistemic orientation, of course, but in
> > structure of topics and semantic fields of them. However, these Brazilian
> >  psychologist publications were some years before VygotskyÂ?s ones... He
> > was called Manoel Bomfim (1868-1932) and wrote "Pensar e dizer" (*"To
> > think and to say"* in the infinitive mode), book dated from *1923* -
> >  title similar to *"Thinking and Speech" (1934)*... dispite the book
> > structure was not very similar (to see the table of contents in English:
> > http://delari.sites.uol.com.br/histpsic/pensaredizer.htm). But there was
> >  even, for instance the title "Noções de psicologia" (*"Notions of
> > psychology") - wrote in *1916*, very, very similar, in structure of
> > topics, to *"History of the development of Higher psychological
> >  functions" (1931)* by Vygotsky, including the final chapter with the
> > positioning of personality as a superior synthesis of psychics funtions.
> > This was something that we find in Wundt too, see "Grundiss der
> >  Psychologie" ("Outlines of psychology
> > &lt;http://psychclassics.yorku.ca/Wundt/Outlines/&gt;";) (1897) - Bomfim
> > was
> > some kind of Wundt's follower, despite his studies in France with Binet
> >  too...
> >
> > Do you think that could be any important relation between *Vygotsky and
> > Wundt*? Do you think this few little clues that I have, can be something
> > relevant to further historical investigation, in terms of common
> >  historical sources to international psychology at that years (1900-1930s)?
> >
> > Excuse me about my naive questions. If you have already something writed
> > about to pass to me, I thank you very much, if you not I thank you even
> >  so, about your patience.
> >
> > Achilles,
> > From Brazil
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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