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[xmca] Re: [UD-PIG] What good for kids seems dangerous for adults
- To: Eugene Matusov <ematusov@UDel.Edu>
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- Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 12:32:04 -0400 (EDT)
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I am eager to hear what Mike has to say.
At the risk of commenting on something that may be different from Mike
and/or Eugene's meaning:
I think this has become more and more prevalent over the course of my
lifetime, at least in the US.
I went to school through 12th grade in Iowa, where there wasn't anyplace
to go, really, even after age 16 when you could drive (although there were
all kinds of adventures possible by bicycle).
When I moved to Boston at 18, one thing that seemed really exciting to me
was the way kids had free reign of that marvellous city, inexpensively via
the MTA. When I lived in Chinatown, I saw diverse groups of kids (mixing,
for example, Chinese and Italian from the North End) freely roaming the
city on the Boston subway system.
That seemed to change at the time of the conflict over busing, when
politicians like Louise Day Hicks
fanned the flames of fear and suspicion among population groups.
Then, of course, came the paranoia over "Mr. Stranger Danger"
-- which although perhaps overreaction, was not totally without basis in
Now I live in an apartment complex with one entry from a suburban street
to the lanes and parking lots within our complex. School buses pick kids
up and drop kids off at that entry. At an age when I was riding my bike
all over town in Illinois and then in Iowa, the kids today are watched
over by their parents until they're on the bus, and then greeted by
parents waiting for them when they're dropped off when they get home.
I expect that Eugene and probably Mike were referring to things that are
meaningful intellectually, aesthetically, etc.; but I think the problem,
in the US at least, goes way beyond that.
What do you think?
On Sun, 3 May 2009, Eugene Matusov wrote:
Many years ago, you made a very good point in one of our private phone
conversations that unfortunately, I did not write down after you. You said
something like, "Often what is meaningful for kids seems to be dangerous for
adults." Is my memory correct? Can you elaborate on that? Have ever written
By now, I have so many observations and examples of this sad point. I wish
somebody studied this phenomenon on a systematic basis. I saw so many cases
when adults literally suck the life out of kids because of their concerns
about kids' safety and well-being.
What do you think?
Eugene Matusov, Ph.D.
Professor of Education
School of Education
University of Delaware
Newark, DE 19716, USA
website: <http://ematusov.soe.udel.edu/> http://ematusov.soe.udel.edu
Dialogic Pedagogy Forum: <http://diaped.soe.udel.edu/>
UD School of Education
NEWARK DE 19716
"those who fail to reread
are obliged to read the same story everywhere"
-- Roland Barthes, S/Z (1970)
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