Re: [xmca] neoformation / zpd

From: Lois Holzman <lholzman who-is-at>
Date: Mon Feb 11 2008 - 19:26:04 PST

I think we're talking about different things, Paul, but I'll try
incorporating what I think is your topic into mine and see what gets
The commodification of culture that is inherent in capitalism has been
going on for some centuries. Attempt to transform it (most attempts
people call socialism) failed, although some people think that it
slowed it down some. So on that level I can't point to anyone(s).
However, commodification is a process as well as a product, and from
that perspective, I think masses of people are, in different ways,
transforming the commodification of culture every day. I could give
instances, as I'm sure others here could, but I rather wait to see if
Im even coming close to addressing what you are raising.


Lois Holzman, Director
East Side Institute for Group and Short Term Psychotherapy
920 Broadway, 14th floor
New York NY 10010
tel. 212.941.8906 ext. 324
fax 212.941.0511

On Feb 11, 2008, at 8:44 PM, Paul Dillon wrote:

> Lois,
> Please point out to me anyone who has transformed the
> commodification of culture or even slowed it down.
> Paul
> Lois Holzman <> wrote:
> Doesn't this "leave out" that determined as we are, we qualitatively
> transform that which determines us? And that includes the
> transformation of "the old" rather than a leaving behind?
> Lois
> On Feb 9, 2008, at 2:15 AM, Paul Dillon wrote:
>> The child’s socio-historical context, made up of the specific set
>> of activity systems (fields) in which she or he will increasingly
>> participate, determines which sets of emotional, social, cognitive,
>> and motor competencies allow fuller, more central participation.
>> The assumption of new roles and leaving behind the old ones
>> certainly also requires all kinds of new emotional and social skills.
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