RE: [xmca] Another Claim That LSV Did Not Originate the ZPD

From: Peter Smagorinsky <smago who-is-at>
Date: Mon Jan 21 2008 - 09:12:59 PST

David et al., Google turns up some interesting possibilities on Meumann:
same page translated into English by a machine:
same page translated into English by a machine:

Peter Smagorinsky
The University of Georgia
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Athens, GA 30602

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Subject: [xmca] Another Claim That LSV Did Not Originate the ZPD

Last night I was reading the new book by M.E. Gredler and C.C. Shields,
"Vygotsky's Legacy: A foundation for research and practice" (New York and
London: Guilford Press).
  On p. 84 they write:
  "Vygotsky referred to the second diagnostic task as that of identifying
the child's ZPDs (p. 201), a concept from Ernst Meumann and other
  The p. 201 reference is apparently to vol. 5 of the Collected Works. There
is no reference to Meumann and of course nothing to "other psychologists".
  This is not the first time I've seen the claim that LSV did not originate
the ZPD. We find similar in
  Gillen, J. 2000: Versions of Vygotsky. British Journal of Educational
Studies 48 (2), 183-198.
  And also in Peter Langford's book:
  Langford, P.E. 2005: Vygotsky¡¯s developmental and educational psychology.
Hove and New York: Psychology Press.
  But neither Gillen nor Langford actually named a name. Does anyone know
anything about Ernst Meumann and why he might be considered the originator
of the ZPD?
  David Kellogg
  Seoul National University of Education

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