Re: [xmca] Syllogism and interlanguage

From: Vera P. John-Steiner <vygotsky who-is-at>
Date: Thu Jan 03 2008 - 13:39:44 PST

Dear Mark.
I am eager to look at your work on collaboration and reflective
teaching. Where would I find it?
Vera John-Steiner

Mark deBoer wrote:

> Hi Sarah,
> I just wanted to properly reply to your mail and to make a few comments.
> Sound like your PBL is a lot like the TBL (Task Based Learning) that
> goes on in the ESL/EFL classrooms. It was introduced by a number of
> people, mainly Willis and Willis, and from there many others have
> followed suit to give a more heuristic approach to language learning.
> The problem with TBL though is that there is a lot of pair work and the
> the social interaction doesn't happen, or there is no accountability on
> the par of the teacher 'What was the point of today's lesson?'. As I am
> starting to discover, there is no 'right' way to teach English, and
> despite the response I'll get from this comment - I think
> Kumaravadivelu has the best approach - beyond methods... in which the
> idea is not to teach but to look for learning opportunities in the
> classroom. I have taken this approach in developing the V-task
> methodology.
> In your setting though it seems almost ideal that you look at PBL, the
> students need to, in a social interactive setting be able to deduce the
> problems and discuss the outcomes. In this kind of situation though,
> why do you not also look at the Activity Theory? In my recent study of
> collaboration, and reflective teaching, I looked at a number of various
> theories and discovered that the interaction that occurs needs also to
> be looked at from the point of outcomes - as was stated earlier - the
> outcomes you can never see, they are always on the horizon. When it
> comes to PBL, or TBL, the point of training or discovering something
> new in the interactive setting always will lead to new outcomes, in
> other words the training is never complete. The roles of each person in
> the setting becomes important, especially in course work.
> I will look up your references that you mentioned. Thank you very much
> for the direction!
> Happy New Year!
> Mark
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Vera P. John-Steiner
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