Re: [xmca] Watson redux

From: Mike Cole <lchcmike who-is-at gmail.com>
Date: Mon Dec 10 2007 - 16:05:50 PST

The book is by Philip Roth, for those inclined to encounter the issue in
that medium
mike

On Dec 10, 2007 3:20 PM, Mark deBoer <mark@ias-group.com> wrote:

> There is an interesting movie along the lines of this thread. In this
> movie though, Anthony Hopkins knows his genetic makeup and spends 50
> years trying to hide it after losing the love of his life because of it.
>
> The Human Stain
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0308383/
>
> I wish there were more movies like these...
>
> Mark
>
> On Dec 11, 2007, at 7:56 AM, David Preiss wrote:
>
> > Interesting how ironic science can be. (That reminds me of Nazi
> > scientists that had a jewish background. Uh! If these analysis can
> > be applied to them, how enjoyable!) On the other hand, I can't help
> > but think that these findings will be part of the anecdotic stories
> > thousands of college professors and textbook writers will include
> > within their narrative in the following years when talking about
> > genetics and human behavior. I am so glad they will be. I just hope
> > students learn the right thing beyond the irony behind the situation
> > and that's the difference between racism and science.
> > David
> >
> > On Dec 9, 2007, at 3:54 PM, Mike Cole wrote:
> >
> >> The following was forwarded to me by a colleague. Thought people
> >> might find
> >> it interesting.
> >> mike
> >> --------
> >>> From The Sunday TimesDecember 9, 2007
> >>
> >> DNA pioneer James Watson is blacker than he thought
> >>
> >> Jonathan Leake, Science Editor
> >>
> >> JAMES WATSON, the DNA pioneer who claimed Africans are less
> >> intelligent than whites, has been found to have 16 times more genes
> >> of
> >> black origin than the average white European.
> >>
> >> An analysis of his genome shows that 16% of his genes are likely to
> >> have come from a black ancestor of African descent. By contrast, most
> >> people of European descent would have no more than 1%.
> >>
> >> The study was made possible when he allowed his genome - the map of
> >> all his genes - to be published on the internet in the interests of
> >> science.
> >>
> >> "This level is what you would expect in someone who had a great-
> >> grandparent who was African," said Kari Stefansson of deCODE
> >> Genetics,
> >> whose company carried out the analysis. "It was very surprising to
> >> get
> >> this result for Jim."
> >>
> >> Watson won the Nobel prize, with Francis Crick and Maurice Wilkins,
> >> after working out the structure of DNA in 1953. However, he provoked
> >> an outcry earlier this year when he suggested black people were
> >> genetically less intelligent than whites.
> >>
> >> This weekend his critics savoured the wry twist of fate. Sir John
> >> Sulston, the Nobel laureate who helped lead the consortium that
> >> decoded the human genome, said the discovery was ironic in view of
> >> Watson's opinions on race. "I never did agree with Watson's remarks,"
> >> he said. "We do not understand enough about intelligence to
> >> generalise
> >> about race."
> >>
> >> The backlash against Watson forced him to step down as chancellor of
> >> Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory, New York state, after 39 years at the
> >> helm. He had said he was "inherently gloomy about the prospects for
> >> Africa" because "all our social policies are based on the fact that
> >> their intelligence is the same as ours - whereas all the testing says
> >> not really".
> >>
> >> The analysis by deCODE Genetics, an Icelandic company, also shows a
> >> further 9% of Watson's genes are likely to have come from an ancestor
> >> of Asian descent. Watson was not available for comment.
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