Re: [xmca] Looking forward by looking back, sort of.

From: Martin Packer <packer who-is-at duq.edu>
Date: Thu Jun 28 2007 - 14:20:54 PDT

Paul, it would be great to talk more about Merleau-Ponty - my favorite
phenomenologist!

On 6/28/07 3:52 PM, "Paul Dillon" <phd_crit_think@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Exactly! So many new inventions of the wheel in the space where the
> requirements for academic achievement produce generational amnesias.
>
> Why is it that the fascist Heidegger has generated so much inked smirched
> papeer while the french resistance leader Merleau-Ponty has been largely
> forgotten. Could it be that the social context favors the kinds of ideas that
> fit well and excludes those that don't?? Does the way a person walks having
> anything to do with how s/he talks?
>
> Paul Dillon
>
> Ed Wall <ewall@umich.edu> wrote:
> Where? Sounds a bit like Merleau-Ponty to me. For instance, Chapter 6
> of the Phenomenology of Perception is 'The Body as Expression and
> Speech.'
>
> Ed Wall
>
>> I was actually thinking about a more funda_mental_ level, the embodied
>> cognition position. I recently reviewed a book for the prestigious MCA
>> called _Embodiment and Cognitive Science_ by Raymond Gibbs. Here is
>> Gibbs own summary of the book:
>>
>> People's subjective, felt experiences of their bodies in action provide
>> part of the fundamental grounding for language and thought. Cognition is
>> what occurs when the body engages the physical, cultural world and must
>> be studied in terms of the dynamical interactions between people and the
>> environment. Human language and thought emerge from recurring patterns
>> of embodied activity that constrain ongoing intelligent behavior. We
>> must not assume cognition to be purely internal, symbolic, computational
>> and disembodied, but seek out the gross and detailed ways that language
>> and thought are inextricably shaped by embodied action. (pg 9).
>>
>> So maybe the question is not "What do you think?" but "Where does that
>> thought come from?"
>>
>>
>>
>> Don Cunningham
>> Indiana University
>>
>> Ancora Imparo!
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu]
>> On Behalf Of Mike Cole
>> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 2:59 PM
>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> Subject: Re: [xmca] Looking forward by looking back, sort of.
>>
>> Ditto work of McNeil and Goldin-Meadow.
>> mike
>>
>> On 6/28/07, xmcabb@comcast.net wrote:
>>>
>>> Michael Roth's research on gestures would seem to indicate yes.
>>> bb
>>>
>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>>> From: "Cunningham, Donald James"
>>>> Great quote Bill!
>>>>
>>>> I have a question, though. Is the body itself a tool for thought?
>>>>
>>>> Don Cunningham
>>>> Indiana University
>>>>
>>>> Ancora Imparo!
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu
>> [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu]
>>>> On Behalf Of xmcabb@comcast.net
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 9:34 AM
>>>> To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
>>>> Subject: [xmca] Looking forward by looking back, sort of.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.lesley.edu/faculty/wbarowy/c7010/Licklider.html
>>>>
>>>> Summary
>>>>
>>>> Man-computer symbiosis is an expected development in cooperative
>>>> interaction between men and electronic computers. It will involve
>> very
>>>> close coupling between the human and the electronic members of the
>>>> partnership. The main aims are 1) to let computers facilitate
>>>> formulative thinking as they now facilitate the solution of
>> formulated
>>>> problems, and 2) to enable men and computers to cooperate in making
>>>> decisions and controlling complex situations without inflexible
>>>> dependence on predetermined programs. In the anticipated symbiotic
>>>> partnership, men will set the goals, formulate the hypotheses,
>> determine
>>>> the criteria, and perform the evaluations. Computing machines will
>> do
>>>> the routinizable work that must be done to prepare the way for
>> insights
>>>> and decisions in technical and scientific thinking. Preliminary
>> analyses
>>>> indicate that the symbiotic partnership will perform intellectual
>>>> operations much more effectively than man alone can perform them.
>>>> Prerequisites for the achieveme
>>>> nt of
>>>> the effective, cooperative association include developments in
>> computer
>>>> time sharing, in memory components, in memory organization, in
>>>> programming languages, and in input and output equipment.
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