Re: [xmca] blog alternative to email list

thanks Mike for the url - I want to unsubscribe but I'm not managing to get
this page.
Yvette

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Cole" <lchcmike@gmail.com>
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
Cc: "Reijo Miettinen" <reijo.miettinen@helsinki.fi>
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [xmca] blog alternative to email list

> Hi All--
>
> Replying to this message provides an apt opportunity to discuss a few
> central
> issues in the continued operation of XMCA.
>
> The changeover for signing in was quite painful, but seems to have been
> accomplished
> just fine. Now if you go to http://lchc/cgi-bin/xmca/subscriber_list.php
> you
> will see that members can log in and fill out a little info themselves.
> Unsubscribing can be done here
> as well without bothering the members at large.
>
> I understand the enthusiasm of some for a blog. At least for the present I
> am not
> enthusiastic about this idea. There are several reasons.
>
> 1. It would require creating a new support infrastructure.
> 2. Many web newbies are not going to be familiar with, or comfortable with
> a
> blog.
> 3. The threaded discourse option at xmca offers a close equivalent to a
> blog
> and is
> in place.
> 4. Many of those who favor a blog have never made a single contribution to
> the ongoing
> discussion at xmca, and many of those who do contribute are not
> enthusiastic about
> a blog.
>
> How to interpret #4? Is it that all the blog advocates would be
> contributing to xmca if it were a blog? I doubt that, but its possible. Is
> it that older members of xmca, who do contribute to the discussion are
> less
> comfortable with blogs? This seems possible?
> In any event, if the blog enthusiasts would like to jump in and help
> create
> an xmca blog
> and try it out, we here at ucsd would be glad to help by providing
> whatever
> info we can, but the volunteers would be responsible for keeping track of
> posters, keeping up the archive,
> making it accessible, etc.
>
> Perhaps an interesting middle way to experiment would be to have the
> upcoming, in the fall, XMCA course use a blog so people could try it out.
> (The issue of this course will be
> dealt with in a separate message).
>
> Another issue related to posting. Somewhere near 100 people voted for a
> discussion of the
> Shaffer and Clinton article. It is chock a block full of interesting,
> relevant ideas to this
> forum. VERY few people have taken the trouble to comment. Of course, there
> can be
> all sorts of explanations. Summer has started, people are away, or busy
> catching up, or
> or or or or....... But the fact remains that XMCA is a lousy spectator
> sport
> and learning,
> I believe we all believe, should be an active process.
>
> Why is it that we get a lot of activity discussing the medium, but avoid
> engaging its content?
> I do not think that shifting to a blog would solve this problem, but
> perhaps. Meantime,
> what do you think of the idea of toolforthought? Do you believe that
> agency
> should be
> equally attributed to artifacts and people? Do you believe that new
> computational media
> reduce the necessity of learning how to subtract 105 from 204? Do you
> think
> that
> David and Katherine have reinvented Vygotsky's criticism of the telephone
> operater
> mediated telephone network?
>
> What do you think about all of this?
> mike
>
> On 6/21/07, jmgdo@berkeley.edu <jmgdo@berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Agreed. I love the blog idea. The "blogosphere" as its called (I am a
>> particularly blog-loving member and participant) offers a wonderful
>> shared
>> space for community building. And its definitely the emerging media of
>> "collaborative environment".
>>
>> My only practical concern is that every person who "posts" (rather than
>> comments) must be invited into the blog as a contributor.
>>
>>
>> > My 2 cents. Frankly, Email or 'listserv' is not a collaboration
>> > environment. Collaboration needs a 'shared' environment... email
>> > 'listsrve'
>> > is simply crises-cross way of incomplete communication method - not
>> > collaboration. New way of collaborating environments, say blogs, are
>> > efficient and easier to extract 'knowledge' from the gathered
>> > 'content'.
>> >
>> > On Blog platforms, you have an option to subscribe/post new content via
>> > Email or RSS based on their own frequency - real-time, once a day or
>> > whatever and those who do not want to be interrupted with emails...
>> > can
>> > visit blogs on their own time and contribute. Things in the world are
>> > changing at an alarming rate that means we need to get on to new way of
>> > collaboration starting 'yesterday' and not 'tomorrow', especially the
>> > academia - the teaching community. Perhaps you may have seen this clip
>> at
>> > the YouTube but here are some facts..
>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65wE6yFYgP8
>> >
>> > Enjoy...
>> > ---
>> > Naeem Hashmi
>> > Chief Research Officer
>> > Information Frameworks
>> > T: 603-552-5171 M: 603-661-6820
>> > W: http://infoframeworks.com
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Peter Smagorinsky" <smago@uga.edu>
>> > To: "'eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity'" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 4:17 PM
>> > Subject: RE: [xmca] blog alternative to email list
>> >
>> >
>> >> add my vote for a regular old listserv. No way I'd do this if it meant
>> >> keeping up with a blog. p
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Peter Smagorinsky
>> >> The University of Georgia
>> >> Department of Language and Literacy Education
>> >> 125 Aderhold Hall
>> >> Athens, GA 30602-7123
>> >> smago@uga.edu /fax:706-542-4509/phone:706-542-4507/
>> >> http://www.coe.uga.edu/lle/faculty/smagorinsky/index.html
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu]
>> >> On
>> >> Behalf Of Vera Steiner
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 2:07 PM
>> >> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> >> Subject: Re: [xmca] blog alternative to email list
>> >>
>> >> I agree with Carol. It is much simpler as most of us check e-mail
>> >> messages
>> >> once a day, Vera
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Carol Macdonald wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Carol Macdonald says:
>> >>>
>> >>> I read the e-mails, whereas I might not migrate to a blog of my own
>> >>> initiative when very busy.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 19/06/07, Tony Whitson <twhitson@udel.edu> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I agree with Naeem on this. I think a blog would be a far superior
>> >>>> platform; and that if we were starting now from scratch, that is how
>> >>>> we'd
>> >>>> do it.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, Naeem Hashmi wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > Agree with Diarmuid.. Interesting forum but instead of going back
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> 'old
>> >>>> > email" distribution method, perhaps best is use a 'blog' forum.
>> >>>> Goal is
>> >>>> > achieved without constant 'emeil' interruptions...
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Naeem
>> >>>> > ---
>> >>>> > Naeem Hashmi
>> >>>> > Chief Research Officer
>> >>>> > Information Frameworks
>> >>>> > T: 603-552-5171 M: 603-661-6820
>> >>>> > W: http://infoframeworks.com
>> >>>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diarmuid Fogarty"
>> >>>> > <diarmuid@madasafish.com>
>> >>>> > To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
>> >>>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 1:21 PM
>> >>>> > Subject: Re: Is there a Ph.D. in "science" Re: [xmca] Fwd: New
>> >>>> > DegreeProgramsOxford
>> >>>> >
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