Re: [xmca] Analyses of gesture & speech

From: Wolff-Michael Roth <mroth who-is-at uvic.ca>
Date: Fri May 04 2007 - 07:25:58 PDT

Thanks to all those who showed interest in the chapter. For a limited
time, I make a screen version available for downloading at the
following URL:
http://www.educ.uvic.ca/faculty/mroth/test/RothPozzer2006.pdf
Sincerely, Michael

On 3-May-07, at 10:00 PM, Ana Marjanovic-Shane wrote:

Michael,
I am interested in your chapter. Can you send it or make it available
on XMCA?
Ana

Wolff-Michael Roth wrote:
> Some of you might be interested in a chapter Lilian Pozzer-Ardenghi
> and I wrote some time ago, which goes far beyond gesture and speech
> and takes on many other semiotic resources produced and reproduced
> by agents in setting. I can make available. Cheers, Michael
>
> TRACKING SITUATED, DISTRIBUTED,
> AND EMBODIED COMMUNICATION IN REAL TIME
> Wolff-Michael Roth and Lilian Pozzer-Ardenghi
> University of Victoria
> ABSTRACT
> Recent studies in cognitive anthropology and cognitive science have
> argued for the
> situated, distributed, and embodied nature of cognition. Whereas
> many scholars have
> jumped on this bandwagon, detailed concrete cases of how and why
> cognition ought to be
> understood as situated, distributed, and embodied are relatively
> scarce. Yet our research
> shows that verbal and gestural deixis in real everyday
> communication constitutes a prime
> example for how extralinguistic, bodily and situational elements
> are included in
> communication, where they are tracked by participants in real time
> and much faster than
> conscious interpretive processes would allow for. We articulate a
> model for the situated,
> distributed, and embodied production and use of semiotic resources
> in the course of
> situated communication as integral part of ongoing events without
> privileging language,
> and concretize the proposed model with episodes from a database of
> extended video
> recordings featuring students learning through design activities.
> We bring together the
> idea of situated communication as a dialectical unit and as
> layered, distributed
> representation into a broader framework of human activity. Any
> moment in space and
> time is analyzed in terms of one, dialectical unit of analysis of
> activity, which integrates
> both conscious (motive, goals) and unconscious aspects (conditions)
> of human agency.
>
>
> In: Focus on Cognitive Psychology Research ISBN
> 1-59454-634-7
> Editors: Michael A. Vanshevsky, pp.237-261 2006 Nova
> Science Publishers, Inc.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 3-May-07, at 9:00 PM, minati panda wrote:
>
> Hi Julian and Phil,
> Thanks. These will be of great help to us.
> Minati
>
>
> On 5/3/07, Phil Chappell <philchappell@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> Baldry and Thibault's work, which Jay Lemke alludes to, offers
>> methodological ideas that I find really useful in classroom
>> "discourse" analysis. They cite four criteria for attributing
>> semiotic significance on a particular bodily act.
>>
>> 1. Semiotic significance of a particular part of the body involved in
>> the act. Facial gestures usually involve semiosis of affect; spatial
>> distance with power and hierarchy (social); and posture with personal
>> defence.
>>
>> 2. Bodily action links cross-modally with other semiotic aspects of
>> the discourse event/activity, such that meaning is created on the
>> basis of these co-contextualising relations.
>>
>> 3. Such bodily actions are ascribed the status of dialogic acts
>> rather than behvioural units. The authors use the gesture of smiling
>> here to show a syntagmatic relation of Bodily Act^Response to Bodily
>> Act - a dialogic exchange relation.
>>
>> 4. A bodily act can function as a semiotic feature having semantic
>> commonalities (Jay's covariate semantic relationships) across
>> modalities within the same discourse event/activity..."formally
>> distinct events elements in a text are linked on the basis of their
>> belonging to a common semantic class" (p. 179). This would equate to
>> cohesion if doing a purely linguistic analysis of the event. I'm
>> finding it an incredibly interesting lens through which to gaze at
>> classroom video/audio-taped data.
>>
>> Of course, the book goes much farther than this, with sections on
>> analysing web pages and film texts and genres.
>>
>> Baldry, & Thibault 2006, Multimodal transcription and text analysis:
>> a multimedia toolkit and coursebook, Equinox, Oakville, CT.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 03/05/2007, at 9:51 PM, Michael A. Evans wrote:
>>
>> > Julian,
>> >
>> > All of these sound wonderful - if you can send citations, links, or
>> > copies
>> > of the articles and issues you mention, I'd be very
>> > appreciative...I'm going
>> > to ask my math ed colleague if he knows about the working group on
>> > gesture
>> > and embodied cognition in PME because this is one definite line of
>> > analysis
>> > in my work...
>> >
>> > Along the embodied cognition lines, a piece by Michael Anderson
>> > made an
>> > interesting (though far from complete) attempt to establish points
>> > where
>> > embodied cognition and situated cognition become
>> > intertwined...hopefully,
>> > the references you send will fill in more dots...here's the
>> > reference (and
>> > I'd be happy to forward a copy if needed):
>> >
>> > Anderson, M.L. (2003). Embodied cognition: A field guide.
>> Artificial
>> > Intelligence, 149, 91-130...
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> > Michael~
>> > --
>> > ____________________________________
>> > Michael A. Evans
>> > Assistant Professor
>> > Instructional Design & Technology Program
>> > School of Education
>> > Virginia Tech
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> From: Julian Williams <julian.williams@manchester.ac.uk>
>> >> Reply-To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
>> >> Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 09:41:18 +0100
>> >> To: <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
>> >> Cc: <andreas.koukkoufis@manchester.ac.uk>
>> >> Subject: Re: [xmca] Analyses of gesture & speech
>> >>
>> >> Michael/Minati
>> >>
>> >> There is a journal issue of RELIME (special issue editor Luis
>> >> Radford)
>> >> just out
>> >> on semiotics and culture: Andreas Koukkoufis and I have a paper
>> >> about use of
>> >> manipulatives (gesture and speech) in teaching about integers
>> through
>> >> games/RME
>> >> method - plus there is a special issue of Ed Stud in Maths (ESM)
>> >> under review
>> >> on gesture and multimodality (eds Edwards Arzarello, Radford) and
>> >> we have a
>> >> paper in that too. There are some conference papers in procs from
>> >> PME 26
>> >> (Melbourne) in the Working group on gestures and embodied
>> >> cognition: the ESM
>> >> issue largely comes formthat workign group.
>> >>
>> >> You could also look for Radford in ESM
>> >>
>> >> I could send papers to people who want them.
>> >>
>> >> Julian
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Quoting minati panda <pandam66@gmail.com>:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi Michael,
>> >>> I would like to know more about your work. I work on folk
>> >>> mathematics.
>> >>> Currently, I am working with Mike on folk games where we are
>> >>> using both
>> >>> discourse analysis and semiotic analysis. Will be happy to read
>> >>> more about
>> >>> your work/querries.
>> >>> Minati
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 5/2/07, Michael A. Evans <mae@vt.edu> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Wow, Jay - this is wonderful stuff! Once a draft paper gets its
>> >>>> legs later
>> >>>> in the summer, I'd be happy to share with the list (for those
>> >>>> who might be
>> >>>> interested in this type analysis as well)...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Cheers,
>> >>>> Michael~
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> ____________________________________
>> >>>> Michael A. Evans
>> >>>> Assistant Professor
>> >>>> Instructional Design & Technology Program
>> >>>> School of Education
>> >>>> Virginia Tech
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> From: Jay Lemke <jaylemke@umich.edu>
>> >>>>> Reply-To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
>> <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
>> >>>>> Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 21:33:17 -0400
>> >>>>> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [xmca] Analyses of gesture & speech
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> You have already been given some good leads in this area. In
>> >>>>> general,
>> >>>>> multimodal semiotic analysis, which incorporates discourse
>> >>>>> analysis
>> >>>>> as one component, is widely recognized as the next step in the
>> >>>>> evolution of DA, which was never intended to ignore activity
>> >>>>> and the
>> >>>>> context of situation, but until fairly recently there have not
>> >>>>> been
>> >>>>> analyses of visual images, gesture and movment, music, etc.
>> >>>>> that were
>> >>>>> both "semantically aware", i.e. linked to meaning, and
>> compatible
>> >>>>> enough with linguistic analysis of meaning to be combined.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Some of the early pioneers of linguistic DA, like Gunther Kress
>> >>>>> and
>> >>>>> Theo van Leeuwen, write mainly about multimodal or multimedia
>> >>>>> analysis today. Paul Thibault and Anthony Baldry have developed
>> >>>>> systems for multimedia corpus analysis and multimodal
>> >>>>> transcription
>> >>>>> based on the principles of the earlier linguistic discourse
>> >>>>> analysis.
>> >>>>> There is a conference on linguistic DA and multimodal
>> analysis in
>> >>>>> Helsinki in July (google along with the organizer, Eija
>> >>>>> Ventola), was
>> >>>>> a broader one on multimodality last year in Pavia, Italty
>> (google
>> >>>>> with Anthony Baldry, TICOM) which will issue a volume this
>> >>>>> year. Adam
>> >>>>> Kendon, another pioneer of gesture analysis, spoke at that
>> one (so
>> >>>>> did I), and his work for some time now has integrated gesture
>> >>>>> analysis with the broader situational and activity context.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On my website you can see the syllabus for a course I did last
>> >>>>> year
>> >>>>> on video and multimedia analysis, and some earlier versions
>> of it
>> >>>>> that showed the integration with discourse analysis (but
>> it's too
>> >>>>> much for one semester). Go to homepage, then Student's
>> Entrance to
>> >>>>> see course information.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Good luck!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> JAY.
>> >>>>> www.umich.edu/~jaylemke
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Wanted to thank everyone who forwarded articles, links, and
>> >>>>>> tips...this
>> >>>> will
>> >>>>>> be extremely useful as we analyze video data over the summer
>> >>>>>> months...
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Cheers,
>> >>>>>> Michael~
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>> ____________________________________
>> >>>>>> Michael A. Evans
>> >>>>>> Assistant Professor
>> >>>>>> Instructional Design & Technology Program
>> >>>>>> School of Education
>> >>>>>> Virginia Tech
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> From: Carol Macdonald <carolmacdon@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>> Reply-To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
>> >>>>>>> <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
>> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 08:18:26 +0200
>> >>>>>>> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [xmca] Analyses of gesture & speech
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I think it should not be too difficult (cf all the helpful
>> >>>>>>> comments
>> >>>> below).
>> >>>>>>> Capture all your data on a godd audio video, watching the
>> >>>>>>> number
>> >>>> count.
>> >>>>>>> Then using perhaps Sinclair and Coultard analyse the
>> >>>>>>> language ( which
>> >>>> in
>> >>>>>>> any
>> >>>>>>> case overlaps beween speakers), then go through it again,
>> >>>>>>> this time
>> >>>>>>> matching
>> >>>>>>> the gestures to thre language. Once you have paired
>> >>>>>>> language and
>> >>>> gesture,
>> >>>>>>> then you have to work out why this should be working
>> >>>>>>> together: this
>> >>>> is
>> >>>>>>> monstrously time-consuming, but it will get you where you
>> >>>>>>> want to go.
>> >>>>>>> Carol
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 29/04/07, Wolff-Michael Roth <mroth@uvic.ca> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> You may find my review useful for seeing what has been
>> >>>>>>>> published in
>> >>>>>>>> the different disciplines referred to on the list:
>> >>>>>>>> Roth, W.-M. (2002). Gestures: Their role in teaching and
>> >>>>>>>> learning.
>> >>>>>>>> Review of Educational Research, 71, 365-392.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> also, in
>> >>>>>>>> Roth, W.-M., & Lee, Y. J. (2004). Interpreting unfamiliar
>> >>>>>>>> graphs: A
>> >>>>>>>> generative, activity-theoretic model. Educational
>> Studies in
>> >>>>>>>> Mathematics, 57, 265-290.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> we cover mathematical cognition, gestures, and CHAT.
>> >>>>>>>> Hope this helps,
>> >>>>>>>> Michael
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On 28-Apr-07, at 8:40 AM, Michael A. Evans wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Dear All,
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I was hoping you could point me to resources that critique
>> >>>>>>>> discourse
>> >>>>>>>> analysis as an overly linguistic approach to interaction
>> >>>>>>>> and meaning
>> >>>>>>>> making...my request is based on a desire to ground analysis
>> >>>>>>>> of video
>> >>>>>>>> data of
>> >>>>>>>> children using manipulatives (both physical and
>> graphically-
>> >>>>>>>> based)
>> >>>> in
>> >>>>>>>> collaborative efforts...what I want to capture is not
>> only the
>> >>>> speech
>> >>>>>>>> but
>> >>>>>>>> also gesture of primary students as they try to make sense
>> >>>>>>>> of basic
>> >>>>>>>> geometric concepts and principles using manipulatives
>> >>>>>>>> (tangrams,
>> >>>>>>>> pentominoes, geoboards, etc)...I'm searching for both
>> >>>>>>>> philosophical
>> >>>>>>>> (Vygotsky, Dewey, Pierce, Mead) and methodological
>> >>>>>>>> references that
>> >>>>>>>> emphasize
>> >>>>>>>> the need to examine gesture and speech simultaneously...
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> As for the latter, I've recently been working with David
>> >>>>>>>> McNeill and
>> >>>> his
>> >>>>>>>> group at the U. of Chicago (http://
>> >>>>>>>> mcneilllab.uchicago.edu/), but
>> >>>> was
>> >>>>>>>> hoping
>> >>>>>>>> I could get more leads from the group...
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Thanks!
>> >>>>>>>> Michael~
>> >>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>> ____________________________________
>> >>>>>>>> Michael A. Evans
>> >>>>>>>> Assistant Professor
>> >>>>>>>> Instructional Design & Technology Program
>> >>>>>>>> School of Education
>> >>>>>>>> Virginia Tech
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
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