Re: [xmca] What about a new kind of XMCA forum?

From: Kris Gutierrez <gutierrez who-is-at gseis.ucla.edu>
Date: Tue Apr 17 2007 - 20:32:49 PDT

for what it's worth, Mike and I have used this medium to co-teach a
course every Spring quarter (except this year while I'm away on
sabbatical) with the following format: We meet virtually for the
first hour or hour and a half, having generated comments and
questions throughout the week on the readings/topics; so we're
primed. We use the remainder of the class (2 to 2 1/2 hours) to our
own ends. My students and I have found it to be very productive and
engaging. Never a shortage of students who have wanted to
participate. Kris

Kris D. Gutierrez
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On Apr 17, 2007, at 8:20 PM, Andy Blunden wrote:

> This is a great idea Mike. On-line course delivery must be one of
> the most intensively theorised areas in all of science, and when
> it's XMCA doing it, my amateurish mind pales into nothingness ....
> but from my old days as support stuff for this kind of thing, can I
> make a couple of observations.
>
> * please keep talking head video to an absolute minimum, maybe for
> the hello and goodbye.
> * get professional help not only from IT people, but from audio/
> video people as well. IT people usually know little about sound and
> light, except for how to store and stream it maybe.
> * audio in the background supporting text and graphics usually
> looks more professional and communicates better than bad video of
> some old guy in a dark corner on the other side of the room talking
> at some point not the camera. :-)
> * "interactivity" is truly problematic for this format, unless you
> are going to enroll people as paying students. The benefit is that
> students can play things over and over, focusing on the difficult
> bits, and at their own pace.
> * "interactivity" for on line asynchronous users implies dedicated
> production, rather than as a spin off from a local lecture, IMHO
> * "interactivity" could mean asking people to move through a
> powerpoint display or website as you talk, filling the powerpoint
> with suitable graphics and text, of course not distractions from
> what is being said, like the same content reduced to dot points :(.
>
> Please, humble apologies for even daring to raise my voice on these
> vast topics.
> I am sure all these things are old hat and will be taken in a
> suitably condescending spirit from those steeped in learning
> theory. :-)
>
> Andy
>
>
> At 08:02 PM 17/04/2007 -0700, you wrote:
>> Its up for discussion (and my computer is acting like it has
>> caught a virus,
>> so this will be short).
>> Its an open question. We could do 10 lectures as a "course" for
>> those on a
>> quarter system or 18 for those
>> on a semster system, or not link it to our regular teaching.
>>
>> I am in a position to help in a couple of ways.
>> 1) I am in a Comm department and a lot of what I do seems loony
>> but this
>> would seem like "Communication"
>> and we have some GREAT IT staff who have supported my amateur
>> efforts.
>>
>> 2) I am senior and old enough so that people here let me teach as
>> seriously
>> as I possibly can, so I can be
>> flexible.
>>
>> 3. I am teaching a grad course in the fall which would fit this
>> bill, so I
>> can nurture several efforts with one body/soul.
>>
>> My guess is that some will want to get credit. Some will not give
>> a damn. I
>> am TOTALLY open to ideas. But my
>> own bias is toward: multivoicedness, interactivity,
>> INTERNATIONALISM, shared
>> texts to ground discussion, lots of
>> opportunity to comment, great elasticity of timing and media.
>>
>> UCSD has some good resources technically./ they have been great to
>> me. But I
>> am totally lowbrow high tech, so I am sure
>> others can do better or chip in.
>>
>> mike
>>
>> On 4/17/07, David H Kirshner <dkirsh@lsu.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> Mike,
>>> Perhaps I missed an earlier email, but can you explain more about
>>> the
>>> idea. Are you thinking of occasional video lectures for
>>> discussion, in
>>> the same way as we have occasional readings for discussion, or
>>> are you
>>> thinking of a series of lectures on a given topic.
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-
>>> bounces@weber.ucsd.edu]
>>> On Behalf Of ignacio dalton
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:08 PM
>>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>>> Subject: Re: [xmca] What about a new kind of XMCA forum?
>>>
>>> hi mike, loisssss! and all
>>> me too!
>>> count on me.
>>> lois, i send you emails this week
>>> ignacio
>>>
>>> Ana Marjanovic-Shane <ana@zmajcenter.org> wrote:
>>> Absolutely YES!!
>>> Ana
>>>
>>> Natalia Gajdamaschko wrote:
>>> > I think it is a great idea!
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:11:48 -0400 xmca@weber.ucsd.edu wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> YES!
>>> >>
>>> >> Lois
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> From: Mike Cole
>>> >>> Reply-To: , "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:33:12 -0700
>>> >>> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
>>> >>> Subject: [xmca] What about a new kind of XMCA forum?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Deborah Downing has been present at some of the video seminars I
>>> >>>
>>> >> participate
>>> >>
>>> >>> in via the internet and has
>>> >>> started talking about the idea of a distributed set of
>>> lectures that
>>> >>>
>>> > were
>>> >
>>> >>> streamed/archives on various topics.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Lois's comments about reading Wittgenstein arrived at some
>>> part of
>>> my
>>> >>> distributed cognitive system in
>>> >>> conjunction with this idea.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> With recent changes in technology, we should be able to create a
>>> >>>
>>> > virtual,
>>> >
>>> >>> distributed course on key topics of
>>> >>> interest to the XMCA community which could be participated in in
>>> either
>>> >>> realtime or non-syunchronously in
>>> >>> combination with XMCA discussions in print.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Anyone interested?
>>> >>> mike
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