Re: [xmca] Fwd: social spaces

From: Mike Cole (
Date: Wed Feb 14 2007 - 08:38:09 PST

Interesting questin, Jennifer. We are reading Mind as Action for discussion
in seminar today. I will ask my students to read your artice, your note, and
to contribute their ideas.

I have written on this subject enough. Time for other voices.

On 2/13/07, Jennifer Vadeboncoeur <> wrote:
> Mike!
> Yes, thanks for that query. In this piece we began with the physical
> and were writing/thinking through what other forms of "space" might
> look like. Space that is constituted by or produced in human
> activity, social practices, and discursive practices, for example,
> that would help us describe and explain our research.
> The concepts that are central to our work - social, cultural, and
> historical - are in my mind, though I have taken up and used "social
> practices" more than "cultural practices" or "historical practices,"
> perhaps out of force of habit. I see this tendency in Harvey,
> Lefebvre, and Soja's work - that is, to talk about the social moreso
> than the cultural, though in saying that, I pause, because Harvey, in
> particular, emphasizes the historical alongside the social production
> of space.
> So, when I read the term "social," as in "social construction of
> knowledge," I read it as a process that is at once social, cultural,
> and historical. I read it as mediated, semiotic, embodied. I
> appreciate your point; that others may not read it this way.
> Sociocultural, cultural historical, sociohistorical, cultural? How
> are other folks managing this?
> Best - jennifer
> >Hi Jennifer--
> >
> >For those who have not gotten the article, you can start at the following
> >url, then go to the journal and down on the right
> >hand side you will see the last article in the series. That is the one on
> >spaces that Jennifer is referring to.
> >
> >
> >Good luck hunting and reading!!
> >
> >Jennifer-- How come the term, culture, does not figure in your brief
> >summary?
> >mike
> >
> >On 2/12/07, Jennifer Vadeboncoeur <> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 14:04:29 -0800
> >>>To:
> >>>From: Jennifer Vadeboncoeur <>
> >>>Subject: social spaces
> >>>Cc:
> >>>Bcc:
> >>>X-Attachments:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Dear XMCA Folks,
> >>>
> >>>Hope this note finds you well!
> >>>
> >>>On Monday, Mike attached the piece entitled, Hirst, E. &
> >>>Vadeboncoeur, J. A. (2006). Patrolling the borders of Otherness:
> >>>Dis/placed identity positions for teachers and students in schooled
> >>>spaces. Mind, Culture, and Activity: An International Journal,
> >>>13(3), 203-225.
> >>>
> >>>I am mindful of busy schedules and not sure who may have gotten the
> >>>chance to read it yet, but I thought I would throw out a a bit of a
> >>>beginning piece and see if I can generate some discussion. Elizabeth
> >>>Hirst, at Griffith University in Brisbane, will contribute as she
> >>>can around her traveling schedule.
> >>>
> >>>As I think about this piece, two interests of ours were: an interest
> >>>in understanding social space, as distinct from material or physical
> >>>space; and an interest in exploring the intersection between
> >>>government - federal and state - policy and the lives of teachers
> >>>and students. For example, if we attempt to work beyond the "space
> >>>as container" metaphor, how do we describe, define, exemplify social
> >>>space? What constructs social space? How is it constituted? And from
> >>>a research perspective, what sorts of data would need to be gathered
> >>>to provide evidence of social space? Both theoretical and
> >> >methodological issues surface here and for the second area of
> >> >interest. In terms of links between policy and practice, how do we
> >> >map across policy initiatives and what occurs at the level of the
> >>>school and/or the classroom? How do we link policy with the lives of
> >>>young people outside of schools?
> >>>
> >>>Just some thoughts here. As you think about this piece, what stands
> >>>out for you?
> >>>
> >>>Best - jennifer
> >>>
> >>>[Eliz, please jump in when you can, and add to the above, vibes for
> >> >safe travels!]
> --
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