ERci-- The Kharkov school makes the distinction! They were all about
activity.
Try reading them in Soviet Psychology. I'll send a long a ref when I get a
chance.
The difference between skinner/pavlov and the russians is their emphasis on
semiotic
mediation through artifacts.
mike
On 12/1/06, ERIC.RAMBERG@spps.org <ERIC.RAMBERG@spps.org> wrote:
>
>
> Thank you for the interest Mike:
>
> Why is it that you make a distinction between action and activity?
>
> My main reference is Valsiner's "Developemental Psychology in the Soviet
> Union". I like the word action because in most of the experiments that
> utilize the dual stimulation method there is an expectation set by the
> experimentor that the subject is to bring action to the experiment by
> actively achieving a goal as well the action utilized by the experimentor
> in directing the goal. For example, the "forbidden color" experiment,
> the
> card is both a semiotic psychological tool used by the subject as well as
> a
> culturally mediated tool that allows the experimentor to set the
> parameters
> of the experiment.
>
> What do you see as the main difference between the Skinner/Pavlov
> experiment and the Vygotsky/Leontiev/Luria experiment?
>
> eric
>
>
>
> "Mike Cole"
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> 12/01/2006 02:08
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> Please respond
> to mcole; Please
> respond to
> "eXtended Mind,
> Culture,
> Activity"
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>
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> What references are you using to chactertize the Kharkhov School, Eric?
> Why
> action when it is there that activity came to the fore as a central
> concept?
> mike
>
> On 12/1/06, ERIC.RAMBERG@spps.org <ERIC.RAMBERG@spps.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I believe there is a distinct difference between the Cartesian dualism
> of
> > the subject-object psychological experimentation and the action based
> > research of the 'Kharkov School'. In the action based psychological
> > experiment the emphasis is upon goal orientated social behavior.
> > Therefore, I believe it is this focus on the social otherness that sets
> > apart the action based research. This otherness at some point becomes a
> > tool for a person to utilize to further their own development. That I
> > believe is the kernel, the nut, the essence of what needs to be
> answered.
> > At what point in development does a person realize that the otherness
> can
> > be a tool to further their own development?
> >
> > In action based research there is not the sterile confines of a
> laboratory
> > but rather 'experiments' can be conducted anywhere as long as the goal
> > being attained is clearly defined. The empirical evidence gathered from
> > these action based experiments gleaned information for researchers to
> > place
> > great emphasis upon semiosis. However, this still anchors a person's
> > thinking within the materialistic realm of subject-object but I believe
> it
> > to be a different anchoring than what results from mere
> > antecedent-behavior
> > associations. Besides being associative and quantitative in nature the
> > results of an action oriented empirical experiment provides qualitative
> > evidence towards answering the question posed in the above paragraph.
> >
> > what do others think?
> >
> > eric
> >
> >
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