EVE? PLEASE PLEASE...enlighten me on this system. I don't think I'm
familiar with it.
I very much like your idea of extending out the experience, to try to
put yourself as literally as possible in the situations and stories of
those in 1936 Spain. It lends itself well to constructivist learning
However, I'm dealing mostly with analog professors both in the tech
sense, and in the learning environment sense. It's difficult to pass
some of the concepts of experiential design, no less using technology
toward its potential.
Anyway, please tell me more about the EVE system.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: email@example.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
> Behalf Of Paul Dillon
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:36 PM
> To: email@example.com; eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: Re: [xmca] Re: Abraham Lincoln Brigades
> Larry wrote:
> "You would have a Republican shop, a monarchist shop, a
> communist shop, a fascist shop, an anarchist shop, a papist
> The shops could be decorated with posters or other artifacts of the
> time, and you might select music that might play in each shop. You
> conceivably design an interactive robot who would spout the political
> platitudes of that particular shop owner. The final activity would be
> go around and visit all the shops and do some comparing/contrasting.
> "I always thought this was the best way to understand "thick
> description" and similar concepts."
-- > ------------------------------------------- > One problem I always had with Geertz was that "thick description" > remained just that . . . an observational/contemplative perspective . . . > as though somehow there is such a thing as a culture that you can > understand without entering it, without being a part of it, that is w/o > taking a position in something that is already polarized in the > conflictual structure of History since a long time ago > > --> leads to --> > > considerations on the spain '36 Second Life scenario (Second Life,the > ideal kind of peaceful, friendly, very unrealistic space that epitomizes > the contemplative attitude Marx descried in the Theses on Feuerbach) and I > couldn't help but think that such a situation could never give an idea of > what Spain must have been like back then (collectively paying for the sins > they committed against the peoples of the southern part of the western > hemisphere of planet earth??). > > To make such a scenario more real, it might be better to set it up as > different stars systems in EVE (which has more realistic graphics anyway) > where the Fascists would have their shops that you could visit and read > all about cultural degeneracy and such, meet the founder of Opus Dei, etc. > but you could also witness them bombing Guernica , murdering Garcia > Lorca, and the like when you visited the Republican systems which they > were attacking. And in general, everyone would be toting guns and > shooting at each other but I think the Republicans would have better art > and poetry, be on the right side of History, and in the end be more worth > taking a side with. > > Paul > > Mike Cole <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: > Amazing, larry. Thanks for that story. > Republican Spain was not utopian. Today I teach Orwell. But some truly > fantastic > people with the good sense to be premature anti-fascists died there, to > save > our > sins. > mike > > On 11/1/06, Davies, Larry wrote: > > > > Today seems to be one of those days where a lot of things come together. > > > > I have a presentation tonight in my doctoral class (I'm the student, not > > the teacher) where I need to explain concepts of "deep description" in > > qualitative research methods, and here is the passing of Geertz. > > > > Then Mike asks who knows about the Lincoln Brigades. Coincidentally, or > > not, the most interesting class I ever had as an undergrad (LONG AGO, > don't > > ask!) was a history of the Spanish Civil War class. Our instructor > > introduced himself on the first day..."My name is Jon Vigoda, and I'm a > > carpenter." We all looked at each other wondering who this old man was > and > > what made him qualified to teach the course. "I was a member of a group > > called the Abraham Lincoln Brigades and I fought against Franco and the > > Fascists in Spain. That got me labeled as a 'pre-mature anti-fascist' by > the > > US government and, as a result, I wasn't allowed to enlist to fight the > > Nazis." > > > > Well, of course, I can't ever forget the class, or the activities we > did, > > like try to hold a cabinet meeting with all the different factions in > Spain > > represented. > > > > So, Mike, your comment now gets me to thinking...was that the place and > > time where I first became interested in what is now called "Activity > > Theory"? > > > > Finally, as I work with faculty here and try to describe effective > > teaching, I use the following example: one effective way to build in an > > online world like Secondlife.com would be to have students recreate, for > > example, a street in Republican Spain in 1936. You could have students > > working in groups to design a shop owned by people from across the > political > > spectrum. You would have a Republican shop, a monarchist shop, a > communist > > shop, a fascist shop, an anarchist shop, a papist shop...etc. The shops > > could be decorated with posters or other artifacts of the time, and you > > might select music that might play in each shop. You could conceivably > > design an interactive robot who would spout the political platitudes of > that > > particular shop owner. The final activity would be to go around and > visit > > all the shops and do some comparing/contrasting. > > > > I always thought this was the best way to understand "thick description" > > and similar concepts. > > > > At any rate, RIP Professor Geertz. > > > > Larry Davies > > Faculty Instructional Technician > > St. Thomas University > > Miami Gardens, FL 33054 > > 305-474-6826 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: email@example.com on behalf of Mike Cole > > Sent: Tue 10/31/2006 10:15 PM > > To: Paul Dillon > > Cc: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity > > Subject: Re: [xmca] :-(( The Passing of Clifford Geertz > > > > It seems a time of loss on many many fronts, Paul. > > How many members of xmca understand what it means to have been a member > of > > the Abraham Lincoln Brigade in > > Spain? How many have read about Balanese cockfights? Tell use more about > > Murra, and perhaps point us at a work on > > ethnohistory. After all, this is a group who at least have an interest > in > > the role of cultural history in ontogeny and we are > > all, for the time being, developing!! > > mike > > PS-- thanks for the interview, phil > > > > On 10/31/06, Paul Dillon > wrote: > > > > > > mike, > > > > > > more of those uncanny coincidences: on Saturday night I saw my first > > cock > > > fight and was thinking about Geertz after many, many years. Although > > they > > > are perfectly legal here, unlike Bali, they still provide the kind of > > > cultural thickness Geertz described and flower networks of > > meaning. It is > > > sad to read how he passed since nowadays 80 seems young (at least for > > those > > > with good health insurance). > > > > > > Not too long ago (10/6 I think) another significant figure in > > > anthropology died as well; although more famous as an ethnohistorian, > > > Andeanist, and French-Russian translator for the Abraham Lincoln > brigade > > > during the Spanish Civil War: John V. Murra who was instrumental > > > in creating the field of ethnohistory. > > > > > > Changing of the guard > > > > > > Paul Dilllon > > > > > > *Mike Cole * wrote: > > > > > > Damn! > > > > > > http://ias.edu/Newsroom/announcements/Uploads/view.php?cmd=view&id=354 > > > > > > mike > > > _______________________________________________ > > > xmca mailing list > > > firstname.lastname@example.org > > > http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! 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