Re: [xmca] Re: something magical

From: deborah downing-wilson (
Date: Tue Jun 13 2006 - 21:26:39 PDT

biochemical affect? please explain.

On 6/13/06, Andy Blunden <> wrote:
> Well I think it would be superficial to stop at emotion (though at a very
> basic level the experience of emotion is intuitively accessible and
> telling). I think emotions only make sense if we have a handle on identity
> and however we understand what it is that it means to "do" something, to
> be
> an actor in the world. If we leave emotion at the level of biochemical
> affect we surely have no real way of connecting it with learning. Why was
> Franklin delighted when he saw that he was the star in this little play?
> How did he recognise that it was himself?
> Andy
> At 07:37 AM 13/06/2006 -0700, you wrote:
> >My guess is that it is recriprocal emotionality, Andy. A particular kind
> >of difference that makes a difference.
> >What were people feeling when everyone turned to Franklin as they
> >recognized Vivian "being" Franklin? What
> >did they feel when he slapped his knee and said. "You got it just
> >right"? And what did he feel? Certainly not bad,
> >judging from the evidence.
> >
> >And what was THE cause of this convergence of positive affect? Its in the
> >intricacies of the answer to that question
> >that we need a Zo to help us understand.
> >mike
> >
> >On 6/12/06, Andy Blunden <<>>
> wrote:
> >>Mike Cole said:
> >> >[snip]
> >> >This "something magical" certainly is very important in our
> afterschool
> >> >work. It includes not only the experience and good will of those
> involved,
> >> >but also strong emotional bonds that grow between undergrads, kids and
> >> >staff. -- almost a kind of emotional flow.
> >>
> >>Mike, this "something magical" seems to be the emotional hit that both
> >>learner and teacher get when the learner makes a breakthrough in
> learning
> >>and development, doesn't it? I remember hearing stuff in the media which
> >>went to the neurological basis of how emotions reinforce learning, and I
> >>understand it is a regular part of sports coaching nowadays to
> deliberately
> >>manipulate the emotional experiences of performers when they do a thing
> >>right or do it wrong supposedly to bring about neurological changes
> which
> >>will attract or repel repetitions of the action.
> >>
> >>It always seemed to me that in our theory of the use of artefacts this
> >>emotional loading tends to be overlooked, and yet that is surely exactly
> >>what is magical?
> >>
> >>
> >>Andy
> >>
> Andy Blunden, for Victorian Peace Network, phone +61 3 9380 9435
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