Ana, thanks for your conversations. I will put some questions. Could our
talking about Zoped from CHAT perspective, be or become Zoped in itself?
Have you ever thought about that?
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From: "Ana Marjanovic-Shane" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
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Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: [xmca] Playfully Answering Ana--
> Thanks, Mike,
> I was not sure -- :-)
> I think you asked a very important question about play and zone of
> proximal development. One of the problems we have is that "play" (even
> if we talk only about fantasy play, or dramatic play, or role play, or
> pretend play -- all various names for the roughly the same phenomenon)
> is not understood the same by various people. Despite an extensive study
> by Elkonin which builds on Vygotsky, and a half a dozen people who study
> play from the CHAT perspective, there are still many unknowns.
> For instance:
> Is it ONE phenomenon that we are talking about?? There are many
> definitions, some of them incompatible with each other.
> Many episodes in literature, like the one by V. Paley of Franklin, are
> impressionistic stories taken by teachers or even researchers -- which
> filter out many details thought not to be important for understanding
> There is a large body of research on play in this country and in English
> in general, by people who have never heard of Vygotsky or cultural
> historical activity theory. While they are fascinating in their own
> right, it is sometimes clear that what the authors are observing misses
> out features needed to be known by someone who would want to find out
> weather there might be a possibility of the zone of proximal development
> taking place...
> Fourth, the generally accepted definitions of the ZPD - and
> interpretations like the one we have by Seth, are based on very
> different type of activities (academic testing, or at least an academic
> dialogue between an adult and a child) than play - weather spontaneous
> or guided, weather by children only or including adults.
> And finally, I think that looking at isolated episodes cannot is
> insufficient. Since, by definition, ZPD is a construction zone, a time
> of dynamic changes where everything is "up in the air", a longer period
> of time and more play and non play observations should be made on a
> child in order to be able to make any decisive conclusions about that
> child's position in her/his ZPD.
> But this is definitely one of the most important areas of further study.
> We do need a solid theoretical connection between play and play like
> activities on one hand and academic learning and development
> (intellectual, emotional, personal etc) on the other.
> Mike Cole wrote:
> > That was a chapter from Elkonin that appeared in
> > Journal Russian East European Psych, 2005, vol 43, NO1
> > All of Psych of play is there I think.
> > mike
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