I would not substitute mediation for imitation. But there is now an
literature on the "kinds" of imitation that needs to be considered here. I
want to see the
original article. (!)
On 12/13/05, Ana Marjanovic-Shane <email@example.com> wrote:
> If you substitute word "imitation" or "over-imitation" with MEDIATION --
> then the possibilities of interpretation start to make more sense. Don't
> you think?
> There are still a lot of questions one may ask, but what this looks
> like is that in presence of another "expert" humans would tend to use
> the "expertise" rather than to try solving the problem on their own?
> I am sure that not all the variables there are exhausted -- what if the
> other is not an adult but a peer? What if the "experimenter" is someone
> the "subject" does not like? etc... In other words -- if you vary the
> quality of the social relationship, do you always get the same results?
> Peg Griffin wrote:
> >And then there is the performance of "overimitiation" -- did you see the
> >report of a study in today's NY Times?
> >Apparently, chimps will imitate unnecessary steps if they can't see that
> >they are unnecessary -- but use a transparent box and they "edit" and
> >imitate the steps that get to the goal. Kids, though, imitate the whole
> >megillah. Transparent box or not. The article speculates why but I am
> >guessing the performance people will entertain other possibilities...
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: firstname.lastname@example.org [mailto:email@example.com] On
> >Behalf Of Lois Holzman
> >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 10:02 AM
> >To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity firstname.lastname@example.org,
> >Subject: Re: [xmca] Artist as creator reminds me of combined motor method
> >Mike, Yes!!!!!
> >That's what occurred to me and Newman in the early 90s. In two ways < one
> >that is coherent with Cazdan's performance before competence and with
> >Vygotsky's learning leading development. The other is (perhaps) more
> >profound, namely, that thought being completed in the word isn't
> >to oneself as the completer but that others complete for us...like adults
> >for babbling babies in the endless little language games they play. I
> >this kind of performatory conception of learning very exciting and
> >satisfying. Have I said enough for you to see whether you resonate with
> >>From: Mike Cole <email@example.com>
> >>Reply-To: firstname.lastname@example.org, "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
> >>Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:57:56 -0800
> >>To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <email@example.com>
> >>Subject: Re: [xmca] Artist as creator reminds me of combined motor
> >>I am mulling over how all this fits together with a methodology that
> >>performance. I have the intuition borrowed from many that it is an
> >>instantiation of a practice that emodies the idea
> >>that the thought is completed in the word. But I am still puzzling.
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