Who disagrees with you, Martin? So far as I can tell, in some readings of
Leontiev it may look
as if history is determining of consciousness (=subjectivity?). In others
"man (sick) makes himself."
And very particularly, given that you and I agree with that history is
(also) the product of subjects acting
what about members' agency as subjects in making the history of xmca? Mary
has raised this question and made some suggestions. I have raised this
question and made a quite concrete suggestion. What is your suggestion?
On 10/30/05, Martin Packer <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> I completely agree with Stetsenko's proposal that we need to understand
> just the way subjectivity is a product of history, but how history is a
> product of subjectivity (to put it in a simplified way).
> On 10/30/05 10:31 AM, "Mary K. Bryson" <email@example.com> wrote:
> > ...
> > So, in this group, I would argue that the community could open up
> > participation directly by actually taking up the scholarship of someone
> > at present, is not being read as if she were, even potentially, a
> > central intellectual figure in the "front stage" of CHAT -- Stetsenko.
> > what might it look like to read Stetsenko's work not just in terms of
> > she has to say about Vygotsky +++ but about say, subjectivity and its
> > materiality.
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