Development as breaking away, David. :-)
On Apr 4, 2005 2:06 PM, David Preiss <email@example.com> wrote:
> It is strange, as a (relative) young participant, I have never felt this
> list to be a meeting of old guys. But I guess, everybody can jump in and out
> of this list as it pleases to her or him. On the other hand, I think that we
> should not be afraid to say wrong or mistaken things as those "mistakes" are
> the ones that generate shared learning.
> *David Preiss***
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> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Mike Cole [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
> *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2005 4:41 PM
> *To:* email@example.com
> *Subject:* Re: Why Lurk...
> Dale, Fern, Heather et al--
> My question about those who read but do not write or otherwise make their
> presence known on xmca was a little
> different than the one answered. In seeking to fix a whole in the (always
> holey, never holy) xmca infrastructure (e.g. the
> people who one sees listed under members are mostly not and the only way
> to find those who are is to act like you are signing up) I was fascinated by
> how many people took the trouble to sign up, sort of describe themselves,
> but never posted a question or observation.
> This interested me in particular because I get a lot of email and I think
> the threaded discourse data base for xmca, which is updated daily, is a
> great way to follow discussions. Why, I wondered, would anyone want to go to
> the trouble of signing up just to read? I figured some people might not like
> using the web and prefer to get stuff through email. But its so difficult to
> keep the threads in mind! (Witness the discussion on development, learning,
> breaking away, etc.).
> I appreciate the replies to the question of why people like to read but
> don't post-- lots of different legitimate reasons. I personally benefit from
> the diversity that sometimes blossoms on xmca to beat down the myths of
> orthodoxy that over-representation of specific people (I am far and away the
> worst offender over-reprentation-wise) engenders (a word chosen not at
> So, I'll keep mixing it up as best I can, as you will see. But it still
> puzzles me that there are so many signed up members when the discourse is so
> wonderfully googleable.
> Cousin mike
> On Apr 4, 2005 1:21 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org <email@example.com> wrote:
> > In response to Mike's and others' postings about lurking.
> > First of all, I really don't like the term lurking...it
> > sounds too predatory to me. And, as a lurker, I don't see
> > myself as carnivorous at all in my reading of other's
> > postings. Okay, well, maybe a little bit. It's delicious
> > stuff! Anyway...
> > I think of the XMCA list as sort of like a family reunion.
> > When a family gets together, there are all different kinds
> > of networks and relationships that become relevant as people
> > interact with one another. Cousins and "play cousins"
> > interact with each other, Aunts and Uncles, Uncles and
> > nephews, etc. The family reunion metaphor also throws a
> > dimension of temporality/spatiality in there that I think is
> > important. There are different generations present, and
> > people "living" in different places who come together at the
> > reunion.
> > Many times, I envision myself as one of the "youngins"
> > listening to the words and stories and ideas of the four or
> > five or ten old folks (I mean that in the most respectful
> > and caring way) who I consider to be both more
> > knowledgeable.
> > But...while I'm in the circle of people listening to these
> > conversations, I'm also doing many other things that young
> > folks do, and I don't want to be disrespectful to other
> > people who are more thoroughly engaged in the
> > conversation/literature. And I don't want to appear foolish.
> > In "real" family reunions, there are ways to cover up what
> > might be construed as comments that are not quite at the
> > same level as that of the grown folks, but email/threaded
> > communication has a kind of linearity and reflective delay
> > embedded in it that doesn't allow for that.
> > So, that's my reason for not contributing more.
> > Take Care,
> > Heather
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